>From their website: "If no agreement can be reached, the network will be shut down in a controlled and orderly manner, starting on Friday, 19-07-2002 at 11:00 European time" see http://www.kpnqwest.com for details. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting e-mail: arnold at nipper.de phone/mob: +49 172 265 0958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333