OT: Interesting email I received
John Neiberger
neiby at ureach.com
Fri Feb 1 22:37:04 UTC 2002
Hmm...I'm still able to reach that site as of 3:30 Mountain
time. Perhaps his service hasn't been discontinued after all.
We can only hope, though. Surely Qwest won't continue to let
this bonehead use their network.
Perhaps this is actually a Qwest front company and they're
trying to lure people into using their bulkmailing services.
By doing this they can get a lot of the bulk mails to at least
have the same set of source IP addresses making them easier to
filter for the rest of us. :-) Sort of like a honey pot for
idiots, because in this case they'd even be paying to use it.
John
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---- On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Joe Blanchard (jblanchard at wyse.com)
wrote:
>
> I just had to call that number on his web page
> and ask if it was some sort of joke, The guy
> there "Paul" didn't have any idea that his
> services were disrupted, and he even seemed
> excited at the prospect of doing some Bulk/Spam
> Email for me.
>
> When I mentioned I couldn't get to his webpage
> He seemed surprised. I ended the convo with
> "You should really read the TOS with your ISP" <click>
>
> hahaha. I would love to hear the conversation between him
> and Qwest Tech/Support.
>
> Cheers!
> -Joe
>
> > ----------
> > From: Daniel Lark[SMTP:dlark at elmresources.com]
> > Reply To: dlark at elmresources.com
> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:04 PM
> > To: 'Christopher A. Woodfield'; 'Dan Hollis'
> > Cc: nanog at merit.edu
> > Subject: RE: OT: Interesting email I received
> >
> >
> > Guess Qwest already yanked 'em. Yay!!!
> >
> > -dan
> >
> > traceroute to 65.114.61.35 (65.114.61.35), 30 hops max, 38
byte
> packets
> > 1 host1.elmresources.com (208.253.213.1) 0.588 ms 0.558
ms 0.474
> ms
> > 2 958.Serial1-1.GW6.SCL1.ALTER.NET (157.130.213.173)
10.282 ms
> 9.652
> > ms 13.142 ms
> > 3 168.at-5-0-0.XR4.SCL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.54) 9.691
ms 10.168
> ms
> > 9.997 ms
> > 4 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.SCL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.55.97) 9.978 ms
10.341 ms
> > 9.870 ms
> > 5 0.so-6-0-0.XL2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.142) 15.447
ms 16.494
> ms
> > 15.253 ms
> > 6 0.so-3-0-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.2) 14.642 ms
15.195 ms
> > 14.934 ms
> > 7 184.ATM7-0.BR3.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.50.197) 15.544
ms 14.990
> ms
> > 15.905 ms
> > 8 sjo-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net (205.171.4.97) 28.136 ms
27.808 ms
> > 27.985 ms
> > 9 sjo-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.22.118) 29.459 ms
28.163 ms
> > 27.818 ms
> > 10 sjo-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.22.2) 28.376 ms
27.821 ms
> > 28.014 ms
> > 11 iah-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.145) 68.262 ms
68.128 ms
> > 68.277 ms
> > 12 iah-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.31.2) 68.851 ms
69.238 ms
> > 69.663 ms
> > 13 atl-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.194) 101.938 ms
103.496 ms
> > 101.837 ms
> > 14 atl-edge-14.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.182) 94.106 ms
93.772 ms
> > 93.874 ms
> > 15 * * *
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu]
On Behalf
> Of
> > Christopher A. Woodfield
> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:56 PM
> > To: Dan Hollis
> > Cc: Daniel Lark; nanog at merit.edu
> > Subject: Re: OT: Interesting email I received
> >
> >
> > Given the latency on the last two hops, I'll bet this is a
DSL line,
> or
> > someone's
> > taken it upon themselves to render whatever circuit they
have
> useless...
> >
> > -C
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 12:43:10PM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Daniel Lark wrote:
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: National ISP [mailto:admin at national-isp.org]
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 3:13 PM
> > > > To: dlark at elmresources.com
> > > > Subject: Bulk email ISP
> > > > National ISP Co. is a business class bulk email
friendly ISP.
> > > > We are dedicated to supporting your company with your
> > > > email advertising program.
> > > > Have the "Peace of Mind", knowing that you will not be
> > > > shut down by your present ISP.
> > > > our website address is >> WWW.NATIONAL-ISP.ORG
> > >
> > > Tracing the route to NATIONAL-ISP.ORG (65.114.61.35)
> > > [...]
> > > 15 atl-edge-14.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.182) [AS 209]
132 msec
> 100
> > msec 144 msec
> > > 16 208.47.124.58 [AS 209] 388 msec 852 msec 608 msec
> > > 17 NATIONAL-ISP.ORG (65.114.61.35) [AS 209] 524 msec 584
msec 268
> > msec
> > >
> > > Well, qwest *is* bulk-friendly...
> > >
> > > -Dan
> > > --
> > > [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]
> > >
> >
> > --
> > ---------------------------
> > Christopher A. Woodfield rekoil at semihuman.com
> >
> > PGP Public Key:
> > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB887618B
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> <P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I just had
to call =
> that number on his web page</FONT>
> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">and ask
if it was =
> some sort of joke, The guy </FONT>
> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">there =
> "Paul" didn't have any idea that his</FONT>
> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">services
were =
> disrupted, and he even seemed </FONT>
> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">excited
at the =
> prospect of doing some Bulk/Spam </FONT>
> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Email for
me. =
> </FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">When I
mentioned I =
> couldn't get to his webpage</FONT>
> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">He seemed
=
> surprised. I ended the convo with </FONT>
> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">"You
should =
> really read the TOS with your ISP" <click></FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">hahaha. I
would love
> =
> to hear the conversation between him</FONT>
> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">and Qwest
=
> Tech/Support. </FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Cheers!
</FONT>
> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-
Joe</FONT>
> </P>
> <UL>
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">----------</FONT>
> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans
Serif">From:</FONT></B> =
> <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Daniel =
> Lark[SMTP:dlark at elmresources.com]</FONT>
> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Reply
To:</FONT></B> =
> <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans =
> Serif">dlark at elmresources.com</FONT>
> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans
Serif">Sent:</FONT></B> =
> <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Friday, February 01,
2002 2:04 =
> PM</FONT>
> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">To:</FONT></B> =
> <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">'Christopher =
> A. Woodfield'; 'Dan Hollis'</FONT>
> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Cc:</FONT></B> =
> <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans =
> Serif">nanog at merit.edu</FONT>
> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans
Serif">Subject:</FONT></B> =
> <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"MS Sans =
> Serif">RE: OT: Interesting email I received</FONT>
> </P>
> <BR>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Guess Qwest already
yanked 'em. =
> Yay!!!</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-dan</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">traceroute to 65.114.61.35 =
> (65.114.61.35), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 1 host1.elmresources.com =
> (208.253.213.1) 0.588 ms 0.558 ms 0.474 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 2 =
> 958.Serial1-1.GW6.SCL1.ALTER.NET (157.130.213.173) 10.282 =
> ms 9.652</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">ms 13.142 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 3 =
> 168.at-5-0-0.XR4.SCL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.54) 9.691 ms =
> 10.168 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">9.997 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 4 =
> 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.SCL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.55.97) 9.978 ms =
> 10.341 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">9.870 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 5 =
> 0.so-6-0-0.XL2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.142) 15.447 ms =
> 16.494 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">15.253 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 6 =
> 0.so-3-0-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.2) 14.642 ms =
> 15.195 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">14.934 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 7 =
> 184.ATM7-0.BR3.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.50.197) 15.544 ms =
> 14.990 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">15.905 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 8 =
> sjo-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net (205.171.4.97) 28.136 ms 27.808 =
> ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">27.985 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> 9 =
> sjo-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.22.118) 29.459 ms =
> 28.163 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">27.818 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">10 sjo-core-
02.inet.qwest.net =
> (205.171.22.2) 28.376 ms 27.821 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">28.014 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">11 iah-core-
01.inet.qwest.net =
> (205.171.5.145) 68.262 ms 68.128 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">68.277 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">12 iah-core-
02.inet.qwest.net =
> (205.171.31.2) 68.851 ms 69.238 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">69.663 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">13 atl-core-
02.inet.qwest.net =
> (205.171.5.194) 101.938 ms 103.496 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">101.837 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">14 atl-edge-
14.inet.qwest.net =
> (205.171.21.182) 94.106 ms 93.772 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">93.874 ms</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">15 * * *</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message-----
</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">From: owner-nanog at merit.edu
=
> [</FONT><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A
=
> HREF=3D"mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu">mailto:owner-
nanog at merit.edu</A></=
> FONT></U><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">] On Behalf Of</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Christopher A.
Woodfield</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Sent: Friday, February 01,
2002 2:56 =
> PM</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">To: Dan Hollis</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Cc: Daniel Lark; =
> nanog at merit.edu</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Subject: Re: OT:
Interesting email I =
> received</FONT>
> </P>
> <BR>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Given the latency on the
last two =
> hops, I'll bet this is a DSL line, or</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">someone's </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">taken it upon themselves to
render =
> whatever circuit they have useless...</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-C</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at
12:43:10PM =
> -0800, Dan Hollis wrote:</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> On Fri, 1 Feb 2002,
Daniel Lark =
> wrote:</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > -----Original =
> Message-----</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > From: National ISP =
> [</FONT><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A
=
> HREF=3D"mailto:admin at national-isp.org">mailto:admin at national-
isp.org</A>=
> </FONT></U><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">] </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > Sent: Friday, February
01, =
> 2002 3:13 PM</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > To: =
> dlark at elmresources.com</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > Subject: Bulk email =
> ISP</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > National ISP Co. is a =
> business class bulk email friendly ISP.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > We are dedicated to =
> supporting your company with your</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > email advertising =
> program.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > Have the "Peace of =
> Mind", knowing that you will not be</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > shut down by your
present =
> ISP.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> > our website address =
> is >> WWW.NATIONAL-ISP.ORG</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Tracing the route to =
> NATIONAL-ISP.ORG (65.114.61.35)</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> [...]</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> 15 =
> atl-edge-14.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.182) [AS 209] 132 msec
> 100</FONT>=
>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">msec 144 msec</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> 16 208.47.124.58 [AS
209] =
> 388 msec 852 msec 608 msec</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> 17 NATIONAL-ISP.ORG =
> (65.114.61.35) [AS 209] 524 msec 584 msec 268</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">msec</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Well, qwest *is* =
> bulk-friendly...</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> -Dan</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> -- </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> [-] Omae no subete no
kichi wa =
> ore no mono da. [-]</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-- </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">---------------------------
</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Christopher A. =
> Woodfield =
> rekoil at semihuman.com</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">PGP Public Key:</FONT>
> <BR><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A =
> HREF=3D"http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?
op=3Dget&search=3D0xB887618B=
> " =
> TARGET=3D"_blank">http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?
op=3Dget&search=3D=
> 0xB887618B</A></FONT></U>
> </P>
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