OT: Interesting email I received

Fri Feb 1 21:18:04 UTC 2002

So now the question is how long it will take for Qwest to pull the plug
on them?

-dan

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Rowland, Alan D
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:10 PM
To: nanog at merit.edu
Subject: RE: OT: Interesting email I received

Not to mention:

Qwest Communications (NETBLK-NET-QWEST-BLKS-4) NET-QWEST-BLKS-4
						   65.112.0.0 -
65.121.255.255

-Al

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Lark [mailto:dlark at elmresources.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:56 PM
To: 'mike harrison'; 'Dan Hollis'
Cc: nanog at merit.edu
Subject: RE: OT: Interesting email I received

Oh they're definitely off of qwest:

Registrant:
CnS Systems, Inc. (NATIONALISP11-DOM)
   4304 Hunter Oaks Dr.
   High Point, NC 27265
   US

   Domain Name: NATIONAL-ISP.ORG

   Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
      CnS Systems, Inc.  (UOLABCFHYO)  ecotton at cnssystems.com
      CnS Systems, Inc.
      4304 Hunter Oaks Dr.
      High Point, NC 27265
      US
      3368698508
   Technical Contact:
      VeriSign, Inc.  (HOST-ORG)  namehost at WORLDNIC.NET
      VeriSign, Inc.
      21355 Ridgetop Circle
      Dulles, VA 20166
      US
      1-888-642-9675 fax:

   Record last updated on 03-Jan-2002.
   Record expires on 20-Dec-2003.
   Record created on 20-Dec-2001.
   Database last updated on 1-Feb-2002 01:31:00 EST.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   DCA-ANS-01.INET.QWEST.NET    205.171.9.242
   SVL-ANS-01.INET.QWEST.NET    205.171.14.195

Now will qwest "do the right thing" seeing as how blatant this is?

-dan

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu] On Behalf Of
mike harrison
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:47 PM
To: Dan Hollis
Cc: Daniel Lark; nanog at merit.edu
Subject: Re: OT: Interesting email I received

> > National ISP Co. is a business class bulk email friendly ISP.
> Tracing the route to NATIONAL-ISP.ORG (65.114.61.35)
> [...]
>  15 atl-edge-14.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.182) [AS 209] 132 msec 100
msec 144 msec
>  16 208.47.124.58 [AS 209] 388 msec 852 msec 608 msec
>  17 NATIONAL-ISP.ORG (65.114.61.35) [AS 209] 524 msec 584 msec 268
msec
> 
> Well, qwest *is* bulk-friendly...

We've been tracking spam closely as the geeks in the back room are
homebrewing 'SpamShredder'.. and Andrew (the head anti-spam programmer)
told me today that just over 50% of what we are seeing is coming from
Qwest controlled IP's, mostly low end resell dial-ups. 