$400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon

Wed Aug 14 20:54:20 UTC 2002

Perhaps they have perfected the Cone of Silence?

http://www.cinerhama.com/getsmart/innovations.html

- Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu]On Behalf Of
> Scott Granados
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:09 PM
> To: Al Rowland
> Cc: nanog at merit.edu
> Subject: RE: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon
>
>
>
> As I recall and definitely don't quote me on this:) but there are also
> grids of wires in the walls which release broadspectrum noise electronic
> noise for jamming small transmitters.  But only in certain rooms.  It
> also strikes me that the pentagon is not going to have many interesting
> conversations in there not nearly as interesting as some other locations
> I won't list here.
>
> Scott
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Al Rowland wrote:
>
> >
> > "fold back" systems like Bose noise cancelling headsets depend on the
> > microphones being adjacent to each other. The further apart they are the
> > more difficult it becomes to "sync" the noise. A digital delay helps but
> > at some point of source divergence even it won't help.
> >
> > Of course these measures are designed for inadvertent release of
> > information. Anyone with a window shouldn't be discussing things worth
> > eavesdropping on anyway. But in the real world...hence the air pipes.
> >
> > Not that I would know anything about this sort of thing... ;0
> >
> > Best regards,
> > _________________________
> > Alan Rowland
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu] On Behalf Of
> > Blake Fithen
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 3:13 PM
> > To: 'Brad Knowles'; 'gg'; 'Sean Donelan'; nanog at merit.edu
> > Subject: RE: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon
> >
> >
> >
> > > Brad Knowles:
> > > 	The Pentagon has windows.  It also has an ancient system of air
> > > pipes aimed at all of the windows...
> >
> > <paranoia>
> >
> > Is this sensitive info?   Couldn't someone (theoretically) aim a
> > "beam" at an unoccupied office and another at their objective
> > office then filter out the 'noise'?
> >
> > </paranoia>
> >
> > Sorry for the O.T.
> >
> > --
> > blake
> >
> >
> >
> > > Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles at skynet.be>
> > >
> > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> > > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> > >      -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
> > >
> > > GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E
> > > W+++(--) N+ !w---
> > > O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++)
> > > X++(+++) R+(+++)
> > > tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h---
> > > r---(+++)* z(+++)
> > >
> >
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