*sigh* What could be better to back up the Homeland Hysteria DDoS warnings, than a broken monitoring site? http://www.internettrafficreport.com/cgi-bin/tr_chartpage.pl?NorthAmerica Go Opnix Go. And no, if you actually ping the routers experiencing "packet loss", they all respond as normal. -- Omachonu Ogali missnglnk at informationwave.net http://www.informationwave.net