The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question

Sun Sep 30 15:33:48 UTC 2001

At 13:54 +0200 30-09-2001, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
>On Friday 28 September 2001, at 20 h 6,
>"Joseph T. Klein" <jtk at titania.net> wrote:
>
>>  Yeah right. I suggest you look at real world loaded 7200s. They have
>>  problems with full routing tables.
>
>I don't know, I don't use Ciscos and I don't regret it.
>
>>  >Any Taiwan-made PC can swallow much more. The limit is not clear but is
>>  >certainly far away from us.
>>
>>  I want to you to put a couple of channelized DS-3s, an ATM OC12c,
>>  and a POS OC48c to your backbone plus all the BGP peers you can sign
>>  up at AADS on a PC.
>
>Come on, I did not say that a PC can handle everything, just that it can
>handle easily 100k routes.
>
>I don't know the limit but neither do you (did you try the funny experiment
>you suggest or are you just guessing?) The only thing I'm sure, because I run
>it daily, is that 100k routes is not a lot for today's machines.
>
>>  The black and white simplicity expressed by people on this forum is
>>  unbelievable.
>
>The ability of some people to continue the discussion about the "routing table
>explosion" legend as if we were still in a world of 64 mega-bytes routers
>(with a Motorola 68020) is unbelievable.

Muck through the archives ... you will find me on the other side of the
argument.

A PC with the big interfaces is called a Juniper. ;-)

The problem is at the core, not at the edge. You can put a PC in
many places but not in a high bandwidth, peer rich location.

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