good advice for operators (forwarded, with commentary)

Sat Sep 29 01:44:45 UTC 2001

> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:29:25 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Sean M. Doran <smd at clock.org>

> The muckslinging here reminds me of the break between

[ snip ]

> I got a message from an operator people would recognize
> that is interesting, useful, and relevant to operations.
> 
> Hopefully the good advice in here won't get lost just
> because the author in question is on the "filtering side".

I get it, now.  It's "pro-filtering" and "anti-filtering".
There's no gray area. *sigh*

Sign me up for party #3, selective filtering, in the flamefest

> "announce ... aggregates [, develop a] sensible policy
> [, and acquire] /20's for each location."
> 
> Who can argue with that?

Sounds good to me.

> Those of you who feel that regional & local ISPs are being persecuted,
> please tattoo that advice on your forehead, backwards, so you 
> can see it reflected in your monitor next time before you
> flame on NANOG about how horrible filtering long prefixes is.

Muckslinging?  pot --> kettle --> black

> My correspondent and his or her colleagues will appreciate
> the reduction in stomach acids which are not good for any 
> engineer's duodenum.

No kidding.

> PS: Well, it's even better if you never announce the
>     more specifics in the first place, imho, but...

Unless, again, there is no alternative.

> | > ps - bad cold, hence in for the night bored
> | > - --
> | > |     if people would just announce their /16's, /20's or aggregates
> | > | as well as the specifics it would solve the problem.  people don't 
> | > | understand their allocations then complain to us.
> | > |
> | > |     the obvious case of that is when people get a /20 then
> | > | split the /24's into different geographic regions.  as long as
> | > | they have a sensible policy, the rir will assign them /20's for
> | > | each location.

No problem with this.  Does this mean multihoming automatically
qualifies one for a /20?  If not, we still have a reason to allow
longer than /20.

Eddy

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