60 hudson may collapse..

Thu Sep 13 03:26:34 UTC 2001

On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Majdi S. Abbas wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 09:37:27PM -0400, Rich Fulton wrote:
> > we are hearing that 60 hudson has been evacuated and may collapse.
> > 
> > can anyone give confirmation/details?
> 
> 	It's about a 10 minute, several block walk from the WTC to 
> 60 Hud.  According to the mapping services it's over half a mile 
> away.

Note: 1/2 mile==10 blocks in NYCM, although this is a difficult metric to
apply accurately in the financial district (where many of the streets
predate the "grid system" of blocks known uptown.

> I find the liklihood of large debris falling that far away
> fairly low.  

According to cnn.com, very heavy debris surrounds the WTC for a distance
of more than 10 blocks [closely paraphrased, as I don't feel like
searching for the precise cite right now].  Also according to cnn, the
collapse of each of the towers generated a [mild] 2.0 Richter Scale event.

Knowing the area well, as I do, I also doubt that even heavy debris would
be sufficient at that distance to harm 60H all by itself. a 2.0 even is
pretty mild, but NYCM is generally not what you would call
earthquake-aware either - I doubt 60H was built to any earthquake spec.

>   	"Although access to 60 Hudson Street is prohibited at this
> time, contrary to previous reports, we have confirmed that this
> facility is currently structurally stable."

I can believe this, no problem.  Personally, I would be *much* more
worried about the ventilation systems right now...

>   	--msa

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
sysadmin at mfn.org

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...
--------------------------------------------------------------------