Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ...

Sun Sep 9 19:03:13 UTC 2001

Many streaming/multimedia apps try port 80 http if their typical range is
not open..

Brian "Sonic" Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Mike Batchelor wrote:

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> > Eric Hall <ehall at ehsco.com> has expressed the position succinctly:
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> > > The fact is that I can write an Internet-compliant application in
> > > about two minutes that will break every NAT ever sold, simply because
> > > they don't have a proxy for the protocol. NATs violate fundamental
> > > Internet principles.
> >
> > Many stupid things can be done in about two minutes.  This particular
> > fundamentalist tenet has been at odds with reality since the first
> > firewall was installed, and will only become more so.
> >
> > Jim Shankland
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> Oh yes, the firewall.  That convenient device that network software
> developers can assume will always pass port 80 and 443 traffic.  So
> everything uses port 80 and 443 in the future Internet, and we're all the
> better for it.
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> Uh-huh.
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