Scanning (was Re: Stealth Blocking)

Sun May 27 02:15:24 UTC 2001

We also were blocked by automated scanning from ORBS, about two years
ago.  I haven't ever checked to see whether the block was ever removed, 
since we made the decision that ORBS was the problem, and blocked ORBS
scanning.

"Greg A. Woods" wrote:
> Do you have the mailer logs from those hosts?
> 
After two years?  Certainly not!  Ever since the FBI investigation of 
one of our users, we dispose of the logs in days!  They cannot request 
what we do not keep.

> Can you prove that there was no other unauthorised use of them during
> the time *before* they were tested by ORBS?
> 
How exactly does anyone prove a negative?

Nobody could assert that we have ever been technically unaware.  We had 
outside relaying blocked.  We had a formal AUP since inception (1994), 
long before any of the johnny-come-latelies.  We also used MAPS as soon 
as our software supported it. 

However, the reason ORBS cited at the time was that the server software
(Stalker SIMS) allowed the % hack.  I dunno why the % hack is a 
terrible problem -- support was _required_ in the olden days.  But, it 
was obsolete.  I believe that Stalker has since removed that feature.

In short, methinks you protesteth too much.