To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS

Mon May 14 21:43:54 UTC 2001

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu]On Behalf Of
> Roeland Meyer
> Sent: May 14, 2001 1:42 PM
> To: 'Curtis Maurand'; John Murphy
> Cc: Roeland Meyer; nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
>
>
> However, I have not yet found a single upstream that even knows how to do
> it, let alone offers this as a service. They are also not happy
> that I won't
> sign control of my domains over to them and that I run my own
> zone servers.

It looks to _me_ (as it does to about 95% of the people on this mailing
list, I'm sure) like you're trying to use something totally inadequate for
your purposes.
If you're using the standard "small business trying to get a connection for
web browsing and email" package that's aimed at your average
non-computer-related small business (eg: a small law or accounting firm),
then you shouldn't be surprised that they want to be the technical contact
and authoritative DNS for your domains, because that's part of their
offering. And, I might add, it's a very good thing they offer that, because
your average small business probably doesn't have a clue what DNS is.

> BTW, if you know an ISP that does, I want their contact number. I'm not
> trying to win any arguments here. If I lose then I win, because I
> will have
> found a decent vendor. Also, with my monthly recurring cash on the line,
> don't you think I've been looking? Also, SpeakEasy seems to not have heard
> about SWiP.

As someone posted before (but you probably didn't read):
vivienm at amethyst:~$ host www.mhsc.com
www.mhsc.com is a nickname for vweb1.mhsc.com
vweb1.mhsc.com has address 216.27.184.250
vivienm at amethyst:~$ whois -a 216.27.184.250
Speakeasy Network (NETBLK-SPEAKEASY-4) SPEAKEASY-4
                                                 216.27.128.0 -
216.27.191.255
Black, Alex (NETBLK-SPEK-RMEYER-0) SPEK-RMEYER-0
                                               216.27.184.224 -
216.27.184.255

To single out one record, look it up with "!xxx", where xxx is the
handle, shown in parenthesis following the name, which comes first.

The ARIN Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet
Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's.
Please use the whois server at rs.internic.net for DOMAIN related
Information and whois.nic.mil for NIPRNET Information.
vivienm at amethyst:~$ whois -a \!NETBLK-SPEK-RMEYER-0
Black, Alex (NETBLK-SPEK-RMEYER-0)
   440 Mission Court
   Fremont, CA 94539
   US

   Netname: SPEK-RMEYER-0
   Netblock: 216.27.184.224 - 216.27.184.255

   Coordinator:
      Stollar, Andreas  (AS3414-ARIN)  abuse at speakeasy.net
      +1-206-728-9770 (FAX) (206)728-1500

   Record last updated on 13-Mar-2001.
   Database last updated on 12-May-2001 22:47:54 EDT.

The ARIN Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet
Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's.
Please use the whois server at rs.internic.net for DOMAIN related
Information and whois.nic.mil for NIPRNET Information.

Now, I realize your name isn't Alex Black (unless you have multiple
personalities), but it sure looks to me like SpeakEasy knows how to SWIP
(and the SPEK-RMEYER-0 name suggests they were trying to SWIP it to you).

Vivien
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Vivien M.
vivienm at dyndns.org
Assistant System Administrator
Dynamic DNS Network Services
http://www.dyndns.org/