Namespace conflicts
Aaron L. Meehan
aaron at coinet.com
Fri Mar 9 23:07:54 UTC 2001
Quoting Saint skullY the Dazed (skully at netlsd.org):
> On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:10:51PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
> > But if you want to beat on my original point -- as I and others have
> > noted, the townname.nj.us domains were also grabbed by speculators. In
> > other words, that wasn't an option, either. I haven't tracked the
> > process failure or the policy failure that gave rise to that situation,
> > but it's very real. I live in Westfield -- try www.westfield.nj.us.
> > Then try some neighboring towns -- Kenilworth, Cranford, Fanwood,
> > Summit, and more.
>
> Nowhere in ISI's regulations have I seen that a city is entitled to
> have cityname.state.us. That's what ci.cityname.state.us is for,
> and AFAIK there is no way for you to register anything under
> ci.cityname.state.us unless you're affiliated with that city's government.
> IMO, it makes sense to do that.
Hate to point out the obvious, but if one controls the zone
westfield.nj.us, then they also have total control over delegating
name service and assignment of any zones beneath it, i.e.
ci.westfield.nj.us. Hence, back to the original dillema :) They have
to deal with a company in Norfolk:
Registrant:
Online Cafe
17 Washington Street
Norwalk, CT 06854
US
Online Cafe??
It's nice of norwalk.com to allow axfr :)
Note summit.nj.us has a "ci" subdomain, while westfield.nj.us has
almost nothing, except "jix".
; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> axfr summit.nj.us @ns1.norwalk.com
; (1 server found)
$ORIGIN summit.nj.us.
@ 6H IN SOA ns1.norwalk.com. jw.research.troy.ny.us. (
25 ; serial
14h11m30s ; refresh
2H ; retry
2W ; expiry
6H ) ; minimum
6H IN NS ns1.norwalk.com.
6H IN NS NS5.NORWALK.COM.
6H IN MX 20 MAIL.TROY.NY.us.
6H IN MX 10 mail.norwalk.com.
6H IN A 167.206.48.79
ci 1W IN NS ns.instantlink.com.
1W IN NS ns.rivint.com.
friends 1W IN NS ns.timhunt.net.
1W IN NS ns3.swaney.com.
1W IN NS ns2.swaney.com.
1W IN NS sun1.swaney.com.
mail 6H IN CNAME @
www 6H IN CNAME @
kentplace 1W IN NS pri2.dns.psi.net.
1W IN NS pri3.dns.psi.net.
1W IN NS pri1.dns.psi.net.
apollo 1W IN NS dns.apollo
1W IN NS dns2.apollo
; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> axfr westfield.nj.us @ns1.norwalk.com
; (1 server found)
$ORIGIN westfield.nj.us.
@ 6H IN SOA ns1.norwalk.com. jw.research.troy.ny.us. (
18 ; serial
14h12m ; refresh
2H ; retry
2W ; expiry
6H ) ; minimum
6H IN NS ns1.norwalk.com.
6H IN NS NS5.NORWALK.COM.
6H IN MX 10 mail.norwalk.com.
6H IN MX 20 MAIL.TROY.NY.us.
6H IN A 167.206.48.76
jix 1W IN NS ns1.nac.net.
1W IN NS ns2.nac.net.
mail 6H IN CNAME @
www 6H IN CNAME @
@ 6H IN SOA ns1.norwalk.com. jw.research.troy.ny.us. (
18 ; serial
14h12m ; refresh
2H ; retry
2W ; expiry
6H ) ; minimum
Aaron
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System Administrator Central Oregon Internet
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