C&W Explination (fwd)

Thu Jun 7 00:46:55 UTC 2001

Andy,

A few points:

1) As a general rule, I wouldn't take peering advice from saledroids. I
especially wouldn't take it from C&W salesdroids.
2) If these three, large providers were actually colluding to disconnect
PSI's peering on the SAME weekend, they would be in very hot water. DOJ?
Hello?
3) PSI has wholesale dialup, so the explanation of traffic inbalance is
fishy.
4) PSI was only one of a number of providers that CW's depeered within the
last two weeks. I have heard of half a dozen others.
5) C&W sent out their depeering letters over 60 days ago, as stipulating in
their BLPA. Other providers have similar cooling off periods.

Looks like the guy was snowing you. Surprise. :)

- Daniel Golding

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu]On Behalf Of
> Andy Dills
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:11 AM
> To: nanog at merit.edu
> Subject: C&W Explination (fwd)
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>
> Interesting...can anybody confirm that ATT and UU were going to drop PSI
> as well? Or is this just C&W doing their best to spin?
>
> Andy
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:46:11 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Christopher X. Candreva <chris at westnet.com>
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> Subject: C&W Explination
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>
> According to my sales rep:
>
> PSI has been in violation of peering agreements with C&W, AT&T, and
> Worldcom for some time now, in his words "just dumping lots of
> traffic on to
> our networks".
>
> All three companies were slated to disconnect peering this
> weekend. However,
> only C&W had done so BEFORE the Chapter 11 filing. One they filed, the
> others were prevented from doing so. Since they never made any kind of
> anouncement, C&W ended up looking like idiots.  Which, since they didn't
> make any announcement, I say they they actually are.
>
> >From my conversations, it's evident that the sales force had no
> idea about
> this until they started getting complaints, and from the
> conversation I just
> had, I do believe that they (or at least my rep) were argueing with
> management to have the peering restored.
>
> Not any kind of excuse, but I figure the guys who did right
> deserve credit.
>
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