telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ?

Dave Israel davei at biohazard.demon.digex.net
Tue Jul 31 16:37:29 UTC 2001



Sadly, there are two good reasons to use telnet to connect to core 
equipment, even in this day and age:

1) You have legacy equipment that does not support ssh, and/or your
   vendor does not include ssh in every release of code (specifically,
   code you need to run.)

2) Your vendor's ssh authentication creates a secure connection, and
   transfers the password securely, only to then send the password,
   unencrypted, to an authentication server for verification, making
   ssh moot.

-Dave

On 7/31/2001 at 11:54:38 -0400, Daniel Golding said:
> 
> I believe that folks are having problems saying why they use SSH instead of
> telnet, because the best practice is simply so self-evident.
> 
> SSH gives you a measure of protection against bad people sniffing out your
> passwords. Telnet does not. SSH is encrypted. Telnet is not. It's pretty
> easy - only use telnet if you must. Use SSH if you possible can. Of course,
> this also holds true for using scp instead of ftp, although scp isn't as
> widely supported, yet.
> 
> - Daniel Golding
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu]On Behalf Of
> > Mr. James W. Laferriere
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:25 AM
> > To: nanog at merit.edu
> > Subject: Re: telnet vs ssh on Core equipment , looking for reasons why ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 	Hello All ,  Thank you for the disertations & insight into the
> > 	possible methods of compromising an authentication attempt .
> >
> > 	But , I am really interested more in 'Why' each responsible
> > 	indidvual(s) chose either telnet or ssh to manager their Core
> > 	equipment .
> >
> > 	ssh
> > 	1 )	Has been the encrypted authentication .
> >
> > 	telnet
> > 	1 )	Has been legacy OS's / Equipment olny supporting telnet .
> >
> > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote:
> > > 	Hello All ,  I have charged myself with trying to find a statistic
> > > 	on how many individuals responsible for IP core equipment
> > > 	recommend telnet or ssh & why particularly .  I will summarize .
> >
> > 		Tia ,  JimL
> >
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> 

-- 
Dave Israel
Senior Manager, IP Backbone
Intermedia Business Internet




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