Peering, Large ISPs, and You

Joseph T. Klein jtk at
Wed Jul 25 22:08:55 UTC 2001

Having done time in the US Military and had both employment and consulting
in and with large organization, some of them in this industry, I would
tend to be in wholesale agreement with Vijay. Large organization don't
conspire well, not even within themselves. Heck, it's hard to get more
than seven people to agree on anything. I worked at one company where the
board of directors had a two month argument about office stationary design.

I do think it would lance a few boils if the nine locations where released
to the community.

At 17:26 -0400 25-07-2001, Vijay Gill wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Daniel Golding wrote:
>>  sets of rules. From my reading of these comments, it looks like they are
>>  starting to work together, and plan jointly. If this is true (and at least
>>  one non-anonymous poster has seemed to confirm it), than thats bad.
>   this secret "cabal" of all controlling, all knowing large ISP's working
>in concert to the detriment of the "small" ISP is bullshit. The processes
>and politics are so bad that chances of a _single_ ISP's divisions making
>a coherent plan are far more likely than developing a lighter than air
>pig. Now apply that across 10 of these ISPs.


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