DDoS attacks

Thu Jul 12 18:09:27 UTC 2001

Jon,
Perhaps when you have an attack, as you do quite often, you should call
our support number?? There is no reason we can't filter/block this traffic
for you... 

If you have a ticket for the incident in question I'd be happy to look
into this.

--Chris
(chris at uu.net)
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Jon Mansey wrote:

> 
> At 11:54 PM -0400 7/11/01, John Fraizer wrote:
> >On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Jon O . wrote:
> >
> >>  This is pathetic. Someone asks for help and you demean them with jokes.
> >
> >Who was joking?  I wasn't.  I suppose that we should all start posting
> >"HELP ME!" posts to NANOG instead of sending an email to/calling the NOC
> >of networks with which we are having issues with DIRECTLY.
> 
> snip
> 
> Have you ever tried emailing or calling the NOC of a Korean NSP for assistance?
> 
> We recently ahem, "entertained" a huge (100Kpps +) DDOS from Korean 
> IPs. Even UUnet couldnt block it. We lost that $30k/m customer.
> 
> Anyone have the email address for the KrNOG list :-)
> 
> jm
> 
> unsnip
> 
> >All the
> >original poster did was add to the impact of the attack in question.  The
> >attackers can now say, "Look!  We kicked SO MUCH BUTT THAT THEY HAD TO GO
> >WHINE ON NANOG!  WE RULE!"
> >
> >>  your own network. However, I'm concluding from the type of behavior
> >>  displayed that most of you manage nothing larger than a couple T-1s.
> >
> >Think what you like.  I'm sure it isn't the first you've been wrong and
> >most likely won't be the last.
> >
> >>
> >>  There is no solution to this problem.
> >
> >OK.  No solution?  If that is the case, why are you wasting your time
> >posting about it?
> >
> >>  ...ACT AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED.
> >
> >If I had posted the message the original poster did, I would have FULLY
> >expected to be blasted/flamed/laughed at.  What is your point?
> >
> >>Both of you are in my shitheads for life book and the only way to get out
> >>is to apologize to the poster, CC: nanog and ask a good question about
> >>the attacks so that we might all learn something.
> >
> >The last time I checked, direct attacks and the use of foul language were
> >both in violation of the NANOG AUP (Item #4).  I believe it is YOU who
> >owes an apology.  [Note:  Get him Sue!]
> >
> >
> >---
> >John Fraizer
> >EnterZone, Inc
> 
> 