GRC rides again...

Benny Fischer benny at
Thu Jul 5 19:10:42 UTC 2001

MS reply, for all this nonsense

Benny Fischer
Chief Technical Officer
Infinet Internet Services
benny at

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog at [mailto:owner-nanog at]On Behalf Of
> Ron Buchalski
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:59 PM
> To: rapier at
> Cc: nanog at
> Subject: Re: GRC rides again...
> Chris Rapier writes:
> >From: Chris Rapier <rapier at>
> >CC: nanog at
> >Subject: Re: GRC rides again...
> >Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 10:45:39 -0400
> >
> >My feeling is that he's missing some clues regarding the necessary
> >realities of the situation. Its not so much a matter of laziness,
> <snip>
> >I'm also sure that XP might increase the number of spoofed packets
> >running through the network. If that spurs more ISPs to use source
> >address filtering them thats a good thing. Even if they don't it is
> >possible to track down where a spoofed IP is coming from - its more of a
> >social engineering issue than a technical one.
> The GRC page talks about his dos attack, and he also rants about the
> "dangers" of the IP stack in XP, but his dos attack didn't come
> from sources
> sending spoofed packets, so source address filtering wouldn't
> have helped in
> this case.  GRC complaining about the spoofed packet problem should be a
> separate rant on his website (who probably is!).
> -rb
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