How does one make not playing nice with each other scale? (Was: net.terrorism)

Sat Jan 13 14:37:12 UTC 2001

Hi,

  There is no need to deaggregate the /16 that contain nullrouted /32's.
This information is (in this case) already available from AS7777 as a
multihop eBGP feed.

  The information obtained from this feed could be used to route blocked
traffic to other transit providers then abovenet.

- marcel
#include <disclaimer.std>

On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Jeff Haas wrote:

> 
> On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:31:40AM -0500, Alex wrote:
> > It's commonly accepted that if you announce a route, you can carry the
> > packet to the intended and correct destination.
> 
> As much as I disagree with many of Sabri's opinions, the statement
> above is what one normally thinks announcing a network means:
> You originate it, you'll carry it.  If you propogate the announcement,
> you'll carry it.
> 
> If some party decides that they're not going to route traffic
> for a particular block, they should de-aggregate the announcement.
> 
> Yes, I realize what this does to the routing table size.  Yes, I
> realize what this does to reachability (generating more specifics
> by proxy).  But you're at least being honest what you're doing with
> the network in question.
> 
> It would be convenient if there was an agreed upon methodology for
> networks that filter certain hosts can inject informational routes
> to let people know that announcements from them are "poisoned".
> Perhaps this kind of thing belongs in the IRR.  But forcing people
> to proxy deaggregate internally to deal with messy routes is just rude.
> 
> Perhaps this whole thread can be summarized as, "How does one make
> not playing nice with each other scale?"