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Joel Jaeggli joelja at darkwing.uoregon.edu
Wed Feb 28 23:57:48 UTC 2001


well... yeah but if your link is a couple multiplexed t-1's the difference
between say 4 and 10 access points may not be all that great...

joelja

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Alex wrote:

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> the more access points, the more aggregate bandwidth you will get on the
> 802.11 cloud...
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> On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
>
> > Merit actually has enough access points (it really only takes 4-6 of
> > them... it's more of a user mindshare issue... hence the continuing
> > availability of laptop drops... note however that there are fewer at the
> > recent meeting (ie. we had almost 300 for one room at nanog 17).
> >
> > the cisco folks used about 24 access points(overkill) for the ietf in
> > sandiego that was enough to blanket the conference center and the hotel
> > below the 3rd floor...
> >
> > joelja
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Alex wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd rather see NANOG/MERIT invest in like 15 or 20 base stations, rather
> > > than wasting the time/money on the cat5 cable and switches -- etc.
> > >
> > > A wireless card costs all of $200 these days... everyone could just get
> > > one.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Joe Abley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 08:23:19AM -0800, Lucy E. Lynch wrote:
> > > > > > Our big costs were US West curcuits into the hotel (6xT1 - we could have
> > > > > > gotten away with 4xT1) and cable - we had lenghts cut to fit the table
> > > > > > layout in the ballroom. We had switches & such on hand, and we "borrowed"
> > > > > > terminal room machines from one of the student labs -
> > > > >
> > > > > If these costs were negligible, how much would it have cost?
> > > > >
> > > > > (assuming, for example, an 802.11b shot from a hotel to an already-
> > > > > connected nearby building, donated transit,
> > > >
> > > > we actually tried to do a wireless run as a backup plan, but couldn't find
> > > > an open conduit, and the hotel balked at the thought of our wiring guys
> > > > coring 11 floors in order to get to the roof...
> > > >
> > > > I don't think nanog is quite ready to go wireless only in the meeting room
> > > > although cutting down on the wired infrastructure deployed is something
> > > > that's been worked on...
> > > >
> > > > > doing wireless-only in the
> > > > > conference and having some friendly vendor loan the machines for the
> > > > > terminal room).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe
> > > > >
> > > >
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the right, 1843.






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