Social responsibility (censorship?) on NANOG?

Thu Feb 8 16:53:54 UTC 2001

On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Susan Harris wrote:

> John, your forwarded message went to nanog-post, not to the NANOG list.
> nanog-post is simply the list of people who are subscribed (allowed) to
> send to the NANOG list, and therefore nanog-post doesn't go anywhere.
>  
> People that are on the NANOG list also have to belong to the nanog-post
> list if they want to send messages to the nanog list.  This is explained
> on the web:
>  
> 	http://www.nanog.org/email.html   
> 
> See section 2.
> 
> Susan Harris, Ph.D.     
> Merit Network/Univ. of Mich.
>  

Susan, 

The only way my message was going to nanog-post is if the MTA there
at MERIT is mutating them on their way in.

Here is what has been sent out.

ATTEMPT #1:
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:12:42 -0500 (EST)
From: John Fraizer <nanog at EnterZone.Net>
To: nanog at merit.edu
cc: spam at wcom.com, abuse at wcom.com
bcc: Jason.Weeks at wcom.Com
Subject: WCOM SPAM!!! : Lower Cost T-1/ T-3 lines from WorldCom/UUNET for
 ISP's.
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0102061402350.8783-100000 at Overkill.EnterZone.Net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

ATTEMPT #2:
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:41:53 -0500 (EST)
From: John Fraizer <nanog at EnterZone.Net>
To: nanog at merit.edu
Subject: WCOM SPAM!!! : Lower Cost T-1/ T-3 lines from WorldCom/UUNET for
 ISP's.
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0102070041240.20944-100000 at Overkill.EnterZone.Net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

(Unsubscribed from NANOG and NANOG-POST, resubscribed with 
email at FQDN)

ATTEMPT #3:
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:22:46 -0500 (EST)
From: John Fraizer <nanog at Overkill.EnterZone.Net>
To: nanog at merit.edu
Subject: WCOM SPAM!!! : Lower Cost T-1/ T-3 lines from WorldCom/UUNET for
 ISP's. (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0102072222060.12448-100000 at Overkill.EnterZone.Net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

As you can see, every message was sent to nanog at merit.edu, just as always.

I'm not the only one seeing this problem and I'm pretty sure that we all
understand how the mailing list works.  We've all been active for years,
even prior to there being such thing as "nanog-post" so, something is
happening on that end that shouldn't be.

I thought I should bring it to the attention of the powers that be.

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John Fraizer
EnterZone, Inc