ARIN whois

Greg A. Woods woods at
Tue Nov 23 00:10:34 UTC 1999

[ On Monday, November 22, 1999 at 14:16:25 (-0500), Dean Anderson wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: ARIN whois
> Gee. We operated relay services for almost 4 years with only one
> incident before this summer.  Since the antispammers started inciting
> attacks, we've been attacked more than 2 dozen times since July.
> Coincidence?  I think not.

I think so.  Lots and lots of people are suddenly finding their
previously un-touched open relays are now being abused.  Just because
they're suddenly abusing you doesn't mean beans.  Join the group, but
please stay in line and don't get pushy -- you're no worse of than any
of the rest.

> Also, there aren't very many _real spams_ in the attacks. The attacks
> are spamlike, but generally not spam.  But the content of the messages
> doesn't matter. I don't care if its spam or not spam. Services
> rendered are worth money.  We are entitled to collect the money
> regardless of the purpose of the relayed messages. If the money
> exceeds $5000, the unauthorized access becomes criminal. We complain
> to FBI. The "relayer" will be found. And we are still entitled to the
> money for the services provided.

No, you're not.  No contract was entered into, obviously; and of course
if you didn't protect your services so that they could only be used by
authorised users then there's not much you can do to the so-called
"abusers".  This is especially true when there are simple and obvious
technical means of providing guaranteed protection.  It's like replacing
the key lock on an unattended service station with a big red manual
on/off switch and changing the neon sign to read "Free Gas -- Help
Yourself!"  They're not jimmying the lock because there isn't one!

							Greg A. Woods

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