dean at av8.com
Mon Nov 22 22:26:08 UTC 1999
We're up to 80K and rising. 2 big ones. Some smaller ones over 5K. Most the rest are under $500. Unless we can pin them to one or a small group of people. Then all their attacks are summed. A number of small attacks over a short period can then be criminal. This amount interests both lawyers and collections companies.
Around 04:07 PM 11/22/1999 -0600, rumor has it that Joe Shaw said:
>What "legitimate business purposes" necessitate leaving SMTP relays open
>to the world? While I think spammers shouldn't be spamming, I think
>you'd find it better to do what you can to stop them from spamming via
>means you control, i.e. your servers, as opposed to going through the
>The FBI has recently stated that their computer crimes people are entirely
>overworked and way behind. So, while they will look into the matter, my
>previous experience with the FBI and computer crime shows a decided lack
>of interest in crimes that don't involve a high dollar figure for damages
>or stolen goods/services except for the purposes of profiling attacks and
>doing trend analysis. Unless you're looking at a six figure loss, you
>probably won't get far.
>Your best bet is to find a solution to restrict access to your relays.
>Joseph W. Shaw - jshaw at insync.net
>Free UNIX advocate - "I hack, therefore I am."
>On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Dean Anderson wrote:
>> These are coming from Mass, Cleveland, Ohio, and Virginia.
>> We use our relays for legitimate business purposes. They are not "accidentally left open".
Plain Aviation, Inc dean at av8.com
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