ARIN whois

Ehud Gavron GAVRON at ACES.COM
Mon Nov 22 19:34:38 UTC 1999


	Dean, you're wasting bandwidth on this list.  If you
	are running open relays CLOSE THEM.  And shut up.

	Ehud

>These are coming from Mass, Cleveland, Ohio, and Virginia.

>We use our relays for legitimate business purposes. They are not "accidentally left open".  We are not going to close them.  We are going to pursue abusers civilly and criminally.  The FBI assures me that it does not matter criminally that access comes f

>Much of the activity appears to be comming from alleged ANTI-SPAMMERs such as Chris Neill, and Alan Brown and Ron Guillemette who have been inciting attacks against us, posting to alt.2600 and advertising our service.  Inciting criminal acts is a crimina

>		--Dean

>Around 11:18 PM 11/21/1999 -0500, rumor has it that Kai Schlichting said:
>>
>>At 09:16 PM 11/21/99 -0500, Dean Anderson wrote:
>>
>>>Can someone send me a list of *all* AOL netblocks?  ARIN's whois only gives back a handful.
>>>
>>>I want to block _all_ AOL netblocks, but its tough to find out what they are.
>>>
>>>Thanks to a few malicious, radical antispammers (Chris Neill, Alan Brown, etc) we are getting hit with a large number of criminal mail relays. Mostly coming from AOL addresses. We have about a half dozen individual criminal complaints underway.
>>
>>Don't kid us, Dan. Close your fucking relays (not that any of them talk to
>>my hosts anyhow). If this has to be drummed into your bonehead again: THEY
>>WILL FIND YOUR RELAYS ON THEIR OWN, AND THEY WILL ABUSE THEM, NO MATTER
>>HOW LOUD YOU SCREAM. THEY SIT IN CHINA, PAKISTAN AND KOREA, AND THERE IS
>>NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT THEM SHORT OF CALLING THE WHITEHOUSE AND GETTING
>>THESE PLACES INVADED. Alternatively, you could come to your senses and
>>shut the literal front door of your house now that you've finally noticed
>>the first unsavory characters passing by. A couple years after the rest
>>of us, no doubt.
>>
>>And they won't need ORBS or any other service to locate you, either.
>>Stop complaining. No more secrets (now that's from Scott Yelich's tagline).
>>
>>bye,Kai
>>
>>--
>>kai at conti.nu             "Just say No" to Spam            Kai Schlichting
>>Palo Alto, New York, You name it             Sophisticated Technical Peon
>>Kai's SpamShield <tm> is FREE!                 http://SpamShield.Conti.nu
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