Is anyone actually USING IP QoS?

Hank Nussbacher hank at
Wed May 19 08:24:58 UTC 1999

On Wed, 19 May 1999, Alex P. Rudnev wrote:

If you have an OC-48, someone will find a way to Smurf it and then you
will need QoS at the ICMP level (CAR?).  I believe that no matter how
unlimited your b/w will be you will always need some modicum of QoS.


> > You are merely showing your geocentricism by saying that bandwidth is
> > essentially free.That may be true in the USA but not in other countries
> It depends. It's not free yet for us (in Russia).
> But we are talking about two tendencies. One are decreasing of bandwidths
> charges. Other is the quality of protocols (such as RSVP and multicast's
> applications) - now this is not usable issues yet.
> Guess what happen first - this issues will be realised by the proper way,
> or charges decrease to the values when RSVP and coimplex QoS mechanisms
> have not any importance?
> > Once int'l bandwidth costs drop to the rates of USA national rates, then I
> > would be inclined to agree with you and Vadim that QoS is not needed.
> > Clearly today, IP QoS is not needed at the campus level.
> >
> > -Hank
> >
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