Monitoring, Flow Stats (Re: spam whore, norcal-systems)

Roeland M.J. Meyer rmeyer at
Wed Feb 3 09:05:30 UTC 1999

Here is something germane to this thread.

>Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:42:43 -0500
>From: "vinton g. cerf" <vcerf at MCI.NET>
>Subject: EC Directive on IP Addresses and Privacy
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>To: "ISOC Members Discussion" <isoc-members-discuss at>
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>I thought this would interest you - these are NOT my words but
>the words of the source of the message to me:
>"Yesterday, I learned from a very well-placed U.S. Government source that
>European law enforcement officials have told their American counterparts
>that they interpret the E.C. Data Protection Directive as prohibiting
>Internet service providers from maintaining records of users' IP
>addresses unless necessary for service or billing.  This position indicates
>that E.C. officials consider both dynamic and static IP addresses to be
>subject to the Directive as "personal data'...relating to an...identifiable
>natural person" under Article 2(a) of the Directive.  Therefore, it is
>being interpreted that the European Directive prohibits the retention of
>dynamic IP addresses even by an ISP unless it is used for billing purposes
>(which is rarely the case).
>If shared by others in the E.C., the position could have significant
>implications for Internet business models." 
>See you at INET'99, San Jose, CA, June 22-25,1999 

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