BBN issues

Mon Dec 13 18:22:18 UTC 1999

Hello,

I'm very sorry to use this list for this purpose, but I need a clueful
person at BBN who has dealings with the old Genuity network to contact me.

We're seeing paths like this to nearly everywhere on BBN-announced space,
and we have not been able to get this fixed for over a week:

(this is just one of many examples, but I thought the pure entertainment
value would keep Randy from browbeating me)

This is to a recent verio partner.  It is my understanding that verio
peers with bbn and that bbn does not buy transit from sprint for this
purpose.  Traffic to uu, cw, you-name-it takes similar paths.  We are in
NYC.

Tracing the route to www.nyct.net (204.141.86.3)
(NYC to NYC)

  1 fa10-0.nyccolo-border1.bbnplanet.net (207.240.48.45) [AS 3847] 4 msec
0 msec 4 msec
  2 f6-0.nyccolo-core1.bbnplanet.net (207.240.1.81) [AS 3847] 4 msec 0
msec 0 msec
  3 128.11.124.54 [AS 3847] 80 msec 84 msec 80 msec
  4 sl-gw11-ana-6-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.207.145) [AS 1239] 92 msec
96 msec 88 msec
  5 sl-bb12-ana-0-3.sprintlink.net (144.232.1.61) [AS 1239] 88 msec 92
msec 100 msec
  6 sl-gw7-ana-8-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.1.38) [AS 1239] 108 msec 92
msec 88 msec
  7 sl-atmn-1-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.79.14) [AS 1239] 112 msec 112
msec 108 msec
  8 lax00.nuq0.verio.net (129.250.2.197) [AS 2914] 104 msec 116 msec 104
msec
  9 nuq0.pao5.verio.net (129.250.3.9) [AS 2914] 104 msec 100 msec 100 msec
 10 pao5.dca0.verio.net (129.250.2.246) [AS 2914] 172 msec 172 msec 176
msec
 11 dca0.iad3.verio.net (129.250.2.61) [AS 2914] 168 msec 168 msec 168
msec
 12 iad3.phl00.verio.net (129.250.3.106) [AS 2914] 184 msec 172 msec 176
msec
 13 phl00.phl02.verio.net (129.250.3.154) [AS 2914] 172 msec 176 msec 176
msec
 14 phl02.nyc1.verio.net (129.250.3.126) [AS 2914] 180 msec 176 msec 176
msec
 15 nyc0.new-york.net (129.250.16.210) [AS 2914] 196 msec 196 msec 220
msec
 16 nyc1.new-york.net (165.254.27.1) [AS 3384] 216 msec 216 msec 204 msec
 17 nyct-gw.new-york.net (204.141.247.202) [AS 3384] 204 msec 232 msec 204
msec
 18 www.nyct.net (204.141.86.3) [AS 3384] 240 msec 220 msec 192 msec      

and a view from the other end:

 1  gw1 (204.141.86.1)  1.716 ms  1.985 ms  1.647 ms
 2  nyc1.new-york.net (204.141.247.53)  6.680 ms nyc1.new-york.net (204.141.247.201)  45.256 ms nyc1.new-york.net (204.141.247.53)  4.348 ms
 3  nynet.nyc2.verio.net (129.250.16.253)  17.068 ms  15.114 ms  4.134 ms
 4  nyc2.ord2.verio.net (129.250.3.133)  80.155 ms  65.077 ms  105.167 ms
 5  ord2.bbn.verio.net (129.250.9.58)  83.454 ms  74.323 ms  48.674 ms
 6  p2-3.chicago1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.205)  30.023 ms  28.376 ms  44.516 ms
 7  p2-1.paloalto-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.7.18)  94.908 ms  93.209 ms  100.024 ms
 8  p6-2.lsanca1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.5.205)  108.497 ms  101.718 ms  102.779 ms
 9  p7-0.lsanca1-ba2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.4.37)  112.947 ms  102.288 ms  104.770 ms
10  p1-0-0.lsanca1-bp1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.5.182)  137.716 ms  115.041 ms  105.331 ms
11  s0-0-0.phnyaz2-cr1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.4.70)  137.202 ms  125.529 ms  120.528 ms
12  fa8-1-0.phxcolo-core2.bbnplanet.net (4.1.110.238)  115.923 ms  126.025 ms  110.862 ms
13  128.11.124.53 (128.11.124.53)  205.543 ms  198.474 ms  190.957 ms
14  f12.border1.nyc1.genuity.net (207.240.1.82)  203.052 ms  254.448 ms  201.596 ms
15  ptp-46.100fe10-0.nyc1.genuity.net (207.240.48.46)  242.274 ms  207.217 ms  233.641 ms
16  covad-dsl-eth0.telehouse.inch.com (207.240.128.21)  210.980 ms  286.533 ms  259.133 ms
17  sdsl-interface-130-208.dsl.inch.com (207.240.208.130)  274.182 ms  270.452 ms  264.278 ms
18  zeus.7nt.com (207.240.214.2)  289.261 ms  265.979 ms *

I am livid, is this any way to run a tier 1 network?  More and more often,
I find myself (the customer who is supposed to know less) pointing out
gross errors to these folks.  Sorry to vent.

Charles

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