http://www.caida.org/Tools/Otter/AS/ Every time I turn around CAIDA has a new gadget for me to play with. :) --- Tung-Hui Hu http://arcfour.com : Is there any project of building a graphical AS map from BGP full route : table snapshot? I remember seeing something like that on the web, : but i can't find anything now that I need it :-)