ARIN?

dirk at power.net dirk at power.net
Tue Nov 10 21:06:19 UTC 1998


We are seeing a lot of the same.

/32 certainly does not mean small network.

Dirk

On Tue, Nov 10, 1998 at 03:35:13PM -0500, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
> Thus spake Owen DeLong
> >I think this misses the point.  ARIN doesn't require or want you to SWIP
> >your /30 and /32 allocations.  A network that small just doesn't require
> >that level of public contact visibility.  
> 
> I think you missed his point though....with NAT/PAT technology.../30 and
> /32's from ISP's can indeed provide a whole corporate network with
> access (small corporate...not exactly Fortune 500 here, but you get the
> idea)...I second his point on this.  We've got quite a few customers
> that are feeding whole networks with /32's...even providing web servers
> and mail servers via these NAT/PAT boxes that are available now.  Just
> stating that the network only has one or two Internet available IP
> addresses and therefore its too small to be of significance is
> short-sighted at best.  Many of these /32's for us have their own web
> administration, mail administration, and other local administration of
> many of their services.  They use a single IP as almost an inherent
> firewall.  Indeed, I have one customer that uses one of the NAT/PAT
> boxes to actually not have IP on their internal network at *ALL*.  The
> box converts the TCP/IP to IPX/SPX...bizarre, but it works well for
> them.  Anyway, they run their own mail server on this setup, and we do
> very little administrative functioning for them...DNS is it in this
> case.
> 
> >As you've pointed out, you'll
> >be doing most of the things that matter (from a contact perspective)
> >for those customers.  As such, it makes sense to use your larger block
> >contact information instead of SWIPing such small networks.  In fact,
> >I'd rather see ARIN move the SWIP requirement back to /26 or so.
> 
> Put my vote in for allowing up to /32's.
> -- 
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