Why does Sprint have address filters again?

Roeland M.J. Meyer rmeyer at mhsc.com
Sun May 31 19:52:04 UTC 1998


Guys,
I hate to bring business issues up in a technical forum, but y'all started it.

There is a definite business case for portable /21's. First off, I
understand the technical need to limit ASN's to /19's so I don't need
lecture #101. However, those limits were set quite some time ago. When can
we reduce them? Has technology stood still?

The need is for service ISP's, as opposed to Internet Access Providers. We
need portability too.

At 01:34 PM 5/31/98 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
>On Sun, May 31, 1998 at 12:30:46AM -0700, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>> At 01:27 AM 5/30/98 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
>> >This does make sense - a lot of sense.
>> 
>> >Karl Denninger (karl at MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin
>> 
>> >On Sat, May 30, 1998 at 12:26:31AM -0400, Jamie Scheinblum wrote:
>> >> Suggestion:
>> >> 
>> >> The initial ASN should be bundled with a /19 to create a "multi-home"
>> >> package.  Unbundled ASNs whould be unreasonably high to cover the
>> >> administration of the initial ASNs of the world, and the cost associated
>> >> with a /19.
>> 
>> No, it does not make a lot of sense.  In fact, IMHO, this is a very, *very*
>> bad idea.
>> 
>> Remember what we are trying to conserve here - not just ASNs, but IP Space
>> too.  Making unbundled ASNs "unreasonably high" would kill all the people
>> who are being good little businesses and conserving IP space.
>
>Uh, hold on a second....
>
>I didn't say to make the first ASN "unreasonably" expensive (and I do
>believe $500 is unreasonable).
>
>However, with a REASONABLE first ASN fee (ie: $50 or thereabouts) bundling
>THAT with a /19  when you get your first PI allocation is even more
>reasonable.
>
>After all, the justification for the IP space encompasses that for the ASN,
>so the work has already been done, and the additional effort at that point
>should be literally a few keystrokes.
>
>My proposals to fix the issue with regards to getting a /19 if you're
>multihomed are also out there; has NANOG seen them?
>
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