Wired Q: Embedded NT

dirk at power.net dirk at power.net
Mon May 25 16:36:20 UTC 1998


Come on guys.... not on nanog.

Can't you smell a clever market research plot from Microsoft when
you see one? Whoever started this is just testing the waters for
embedded NT...

Dirk

PS: Yes, Linux will kill NT as server platform. No doubt about it.
    This list has a different purpose.

On Mon, May 25, 1998 at 09:23:13AM -0700, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
> At 01:12 PM 5/25/98 +0400, Alex P. Rudnev wrote:
> >You are wrong a little. The difference is:
> >
> >- if you use MS and it don't work, your boss blame to BILL GATES.
> >
> >- if you use FreeBSD (or Linux, through FreeBSD is better for the 
> >networking) and it don't work, your boss blame _guess, who? - YOU_ .
> 
> Nope, buying IBM/M$ to secure your job is a canard. In both cases, if you
> are an employee you will lose credibility (lose enough of that and your job
> follows), as an owner of a business you lose customers (lose enough of
> *that* and you'll have to get a real job). If an employee causes sufficient
> loss of business through bad decisions, they get canned (back to
> credibility again).
> 
> We run Caldera here, with WinNT workstations. This is not simply because we
> are a Caldera VAR. Linux servers are much more reliable than WinNT,
> although we have *one* of those also, no choice and it's constantly in
> Intensive Care (Netscape ES3.51 locks up regularly or NT auto-boots and we
> have to MANUALLY enter the VeriSign password. We are working on an
> Linux/Apache-SSL/PostgreSQL/self-certifying solution). BTW, Caldera does
> not yet have an Enterprise Server solution, but there's one on the way.
> 
> >That's a matter.
> >
> >> 
> >> The reason is simple. While we sit here bitching about this "minor"
> >> issue and that "minor" issue, like the state of the net, the S&M
> >> (Sales and Marketing, but sometimes I wonder) people are out there
> >> from Mickeysoft promoting the "No one ever got fired for buying M$"
> >> message. NT is a >corporate< product. This, in my view, means that
> >> you don't care if it works as long as you can hire someone else to
> >> fix it and your budget is maintained. Hell, if we started using "free"
> >> products, we wouldn't have license fees to pay and my budget to run
> >> a 100 node NT network would disappear. Budgets = Power in that sad
> >> world.
> >
> >...
> >
> 
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