Fwd: FW: Removal from APNIC lists

Wed May 20 15:29:20 UTC 1998

North America != Asia Pacific

ergo:  take it elsewhere.

At 09:23 AM 5/20/98 -0500, Jim Fleming wrote:
>On Wednesday, May 20, 1998 9:17 AM, Perry E.
Metzger[SMTP:perry at piermont.com] wrote:
>@
>@Eric Germann writes:
>@> There is a God.
>@
>@Now if only someone could get him off of the IETF and nanog lists, and 
>@maybe a few others...
>@
>@.pm
>@
>
>According to the APNIC Annual Report, the data base of information
>is not accurate[1]. Despite this, the APNIC received an additional allocation
>of over 16 million IPv4 addresses in April of 1997. That appears to be the
>same time that the APNIC paid the IANA $50,000 in service fees. This also
>appears to be at a time when the APNIC had not used the addresses it
>already had.
>
>Why does a private company like APNIC, set up in an off-shore haven
>like the Seychelles, and operating out of Tokyo, with apparently no taxes
>being paid to Japan[2], be allowed to obtain additional IPv4 address space
>with apparently no justification and an admission of poor record keeping
>while U.S. ISPs and other companies around the world are put through
>the ringer for a few IPv4 addresses ?
>
>
>Jim Fleming
>
>
>==================================================
>http://teckla.apnic.net/annual_reports/1997/resource_status.htm#c4_1
>
>Percentage
>Used
>-------------------------
>0%	61.x.x.x <-------- April 25, 1997
>0%	169.208.x.x
>0%	169.209.x.x
>0%	169.210.x.x
>0%	169.211.x.x
>0%	169.212.x.x
>0%	169.213.x.x
>0%	169.214.x.x
>0%	169.215.x.x
>80%	202.x.x.x
>80%	203.x.x.x
>12%	210.x.x.x
>12%	211.x.x.x
>
>@@@@ http://teckla.apnic.net/annual_reports/1997/financial_status.htm#c3_2
>
>"Service fees which consisted of the APNIC payment of
>US $50,000 to the IANA in April, 1997;"
>
>@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>
>[1] @@@
http://teckla.apnic.net/annual_reports/1997/future_directions.htm#c6_1
>
>"Database Cleanup
>The current registry database system is has significant amounts of
>incorrect data. This is a significant issue as the registry database is
intended
>to be the location of authoritative information on which organizations
control
>which resources. It is likely that unless the registry database system is
revised,
>conflicts will arise when organizations attempt to obtain Internet
connectivity
>with historically allocated resources but which no longer have up to date
>information in the registry database."
>
>@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>
>[2] @@@ http://teckla.apnic.net/annual_reports/1997/other_activities.htm#c5_2
>
>"APNIC Headquarters Relocation
>
>Around first quarter 1997, APNIC began to investigate what would be required
>to hire additional staff for the APNIC office in Japan. After lengthy
consultations
>with various organizations, it was established that the question of
whether APNIC
>needed to pay tax in Japan was somewhat indeterminate. Specifically,
according
>to two of three accountancy firms, APNIC should pay taxes, while the third
indicated
>exactly the opposite. After significant discussion, it was decided to
evaluate the
>costs of doing business in Japan vis-a-vis doing business in other Asia or
Pacific
>Rim locations."
>
>@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>-

>Jim Fleming
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> 

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