ARIN allocating /20 netblocks?
Karl Denninger
karl at mcs.net
Sun May 17 18:50:19 UTC 1998
On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 10:27:00AM -0000, Michael K. Smith wrote:
> Michael Dillon said on 5/17/98 6:13 AM
>
> >On Sat, 16 May 1998, Karl Denninger wrote:
> >
> >> agency). Renumbering THEM would be a job out of the depths of Hades
> >> itself; even broaching the subject would likely cost us the account.
> >
> >I see. So if you tell the customer that they need to renumber, then they
> >tell you to stuff it and switch to a new provider who... tells them that
> >they must renumber out of your soon-to-be-reassigned address space.
> >
> >I just don't see this as a realistic example of a situation in which a
> >renumbering ISP is at a severe business disadvantage. In fact I can't
> >remember ever seeing any such realistic example nor do I ever remember
> >hearing of a case in which an ISP lost a significant amount of business
> >because of renumbering.
> >
>
> We have renumbered out of two /20's and 2 /19's and, although we haven't
> lost any dedicated customers, our time investment in the process has been
> unreal. In several instances we had to go onsite and do the renumbering
> for them. Of course, the first time you go onsite, the tech guy isn't
> there, so that's half a day for two people lost. Then, the next time you
> go, he doesn't have the passwords to the server, so you have to come back
> again... And, because this is something we are requiring them to do, we
> can't charge them for it.
>
> Let's not forget to mention the 10,000 dialup customers who have to
> change their DNS numbers. We have sent snail-mail and e-mail over and
> over again, yet only about 1/3 of that 10k have actually made the change
> away from the old numbers. How many of those customers do you think
> we'll lose when we officially turn off the old ip's?
At least 1/4 to 1/3rd of them.
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