Why does Sprint have address filters again?
karl at mcs.net
Sat May 30 06:27:30 UTC 1998
This does make sense - a lot of sense.
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On Sat, May 30, 1998 at 12:26:31AM -0400, Jamie Scheinblum wrote:
> The initial ASN should be bundled with a /19 to create a "multi-home"
> package. Unbundled ASNs whould be unreasonably high to cover the
> administration of the initial ASNs of the world, and the cost associated
> with a /19.
> In reality it seems you need both, a /19 to make it past the route filters,
> and an ASN. This also save on the ARIN support side, since the ARIN
> employee tasked with making the call to verify the customer does in fact
> have 2 T-1s (or has 2 ISPs vouch he will have at least a T1 with each), can
> also verify they will accept the routes for the ASN.
> Seems like this would cut the administraion on ARIN's behalf a bit, and make
> it "more fair" to the smaller networks looking to multi-home (See Karl's
> proposal on IP allocation).
> -jamie at networked.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Dillon [mailto:michael at memra.com]
> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 1998 12:02 AM
> To: nanog at merit.edu
> Cc: arin-council at arin.net
> Subject: Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again?
> On Fri, 29 May 1998, Karl Denninger wrote:
> > Now, let's look at the parallels:
> > 1. Both are required to "do business" in a given sector (ie: announce
> > routes, sell to the Erate customer base)
> > 2. Both are simple *technical* providers (assignment of a number, with
> > the important being that it is unique in both cases).
> > 3. One is free to the ISP.
> > 4. The other costs $500.00
> 5. One is financed by the government out of your taxes and is merely an
> accounting formality much like a customer ID number. The other is funded
> by a corporation that has no government funding and must support itself
> not unlike most businesses and the number is a critical infrastructure
> identifier something like an NPA-NXX.
> > What is going on here? ASNs didn't used to cost money until ARIN got its
> > claws into them.
> ASNs have always cost money to issue. It's just that in the past it was
> funded out of taxes funnelled through the NSF to a subcontractor and
> hidden somewhere in NSI's budget. Those days are gone, thank God.
> Michael Dillon - Internet & ISP Consulting
> Memra Communications Inc. - E-mail: michael at memra.com
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