Core router bakeoff?

Andrew Bangs andrewb at
Fri May 8 01:10:53 UTC 1998

Perry E. Metzger wrote:

> Jon Green writes:

> > but you are recommending a PC running GateD over a Bay router?
> At the low end, sure. They're cheap as all hell, easy to remote
> manage, easy to expand, and very efficient. With the right software,
> they are pretty damn nice. Lots of NSPs use the things these days --
> Daemon in the U.K. used to do nothing but BSD boxes last time I
> checked.

You mean Demon Internet ? 

We've branched out into Ascend GRFs too now ... couldn't find a
HSSI card for a PC that we were happy with, and the BSD-like 
feel of the GRF appealed to us (it's nice to be able to run your 
own binaries on your routers, like sshd).

Still have lots of PCs. Typical spec would be something like:
P Pro 200, 128MB ram, OpenBSD 2.2, GateD 4.x, 4 Intel (or Digital)
fast ethernet cards.

We're also having reasonable success with some of the 4-port ZNYX
ethernet cards.

It's a solution that works so long as you don't want/need all the 
ethernets running at wire speed, and you're prepared to learn how
GateD works. :)

Andrew Bangs, Network Engineering Manager, Demon Internet Ltd
andrewb at

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