We use Quadritek IP Management (QIP). It works well. Barry Barry L James | Mikrotec Internet Services, Inc (AS3801) Director R & D | 1001 Winchester Rd bjames at mis.net | Lexington KY 40505 http://www.mis.net/ | 606/225.2993 800/875.5095 --- Member AAAI, IEEE # 40277528