I nominate MCS.net as host of NANOG 14 :)

Wed Jul 1 01:12:01 UTC 1998

Its amazing to me how much bandwidth is wasted talking about
where each dollar goes.  If you have real questions then direct
them PRIVATELY to those in the know.

Personally hosting NANOG 12 was quite an educational experience for
us at iHighway.net.  I have worked on many shows in the past and 
NANOG is certainly a different breed.

jmbrown at ihighway.net

At 05:07 PM 6/30/98 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
>On Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 04:53:14PM -0500, James Rishaw wrote:
>> Jared Mauch wrote:
>> > 	The one thing you're probally forgetting is hotel costs.
>> > 
>> > 	Rent enough space in a hotel to fit 500 people in.
>> 
>> Not that expensive.. especially when you tell them most of these 500 people
>> will be renting rooms there.
>> 
>> > 	You can't bring outside food into there, you need to use
>> > the hotel food.  (Or you can, but not in large quantities), unless
>> > you're going to bus everyone somewhere else.
>> 
>> You can.  Just gotta negotiate :)
>> 
>> > 	I'd be interested in seeing the numbers also, but not in a
>> > "where the hell are you spending my money" sort of fashion.  these
>> > things have costs, how many hotel people were there to be our slaves?
>> > quite a few.
>> 
>> OK, 15 slaves @ $10/hr * 16 hours (2x8) = $2400, or $4.80 per attendee.
>> 
>> 50 slaves @ $10/hr * 16 hours = $16.00 per attendee.  That's one personal
>> assistant for every 10 people. :)
>
>I agree with Jamie.
>
>Having negotiated fairly significant conventions before (low-thousands of
>people) with hotels, and having done several seminars and such at the same
>kind of venues, this isn't that difficult to do.
>
>$250/person (not including accomodations) is outrageous unless there's money 
>being siphoned off or silly things are being done.
>
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