Reporting Little Blue Men

Steve Sobol sjsobol at
Fri Jan 23 00:42:38 UTC 1998

On Tue, Jan 20, 1998 at 07:03:42PM -0500, Dean Anderson wrote:

> I'm working on a spam policy which may be viewed at
> It includes all the laws that are being
> broken by all the parties.  It's still a draft, but the main points are
> there.
> >I want to do my part to try to stop attacks, but I'm baffled on this
> >one.
> Here's what you can do:
> Get people to stop illegally blocking spam, and then get the spammers to
> stop illegally using relays.

Sysadmins have a right to make sure their systems are not compromised,
and to protect the integrity of their service for their  users. Period.

Sorry, Dean -- and I don't want to get into a big argument here, because
nanog is not the place for it -- but spam does affect the throughput of the
typical ISP and it does crash servers (it did to ours).

> At some point, perhaps we can take a list of violators to the FBI and ask
> them to restore order and enforce the laws on spammer and anti-spammer
> violators.

ISP's are private companies and the servers are their property. If the ISP
makes known when the user signs up that spam is being blocked, and the user
acknowledges that and signs up anyway, I can't see how anyone's rights are
being violated.
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