[Fwd: smurf... still?]

Thu Feb 5 14:58:47 UTC 1998

We at Netcom Canada, only migrated the customer base for portions of the old
Hookup network.  The Hookup core was torn down, with the address space going
to Interhop (another ISP in Toronto).

Michael Gibson
Sr. Network Admin - Netcom Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Murray S. Kucherawy <msk at concentric.net>
To: Heather Knape <hknape at pbi.net>
Cc: Sharif Torpis <faust at grift.com>; tatsuya at giganet.net
<tatsuya at giganet.net>; djr at narnia.n.ml.org <djr at narnia.n.ml.org>;
nanog at merit.edu <nanog at merit.edu>
Date: Thursday, February 05, 1998 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: smurf... still?]

>Yep, I left HookUp in very early January of 1997.  I wouldn't even know
>who to talk to up there at this point.  I don't think HookUp exists
>anymore, but clearly some of their equipment is still on and running,
>presumably for the customer transition to NetCom.
>
>You guys are on your own with this one.  You might try seeking help from
>their upstream providers, Sprint Canada I believe.
>
>Incidentally, my last name isn't "Kucher", it's "Kucherawy".  There still
>are some last names out there that don't fit in UNIX userids, you know.
>:-)
>
>-MSK
>
>On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Heather Knape wrote:
>> nope-ola...he's gone down to concentric.
>>
>> I think he is msk at cris.com.
>> -Heather
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>> > can u forward this to murray? mskucher at pbi.net bounces ... is he still
>> > there?
>> >
>> > --
>> > "Gas, grass, or ass, nobody rides for free."
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>> > On Wed, Feb 04, 1998 at 12:01:49PM +0900, Tatsuya Kawasaki wrote:
>> > > Daniel,
>> > >
>> > > Try mskucher at hookup.net
>> > >
>> > > HookUp Communications
>> > > 165.154.0.0/16
>> > >
>> > > do you think this will help?
>> >
>> > Daniel,
>> >
>> > $ whois 167.154.0.0
>> >    1075 North Service Road West, Suite 207
>> >    Oakville, Ontario L6M 2G2
>> >    Canada
>> >
>> >    Netname: HOOKUP-NET-4
>> >    Netnumber: 165.154.0.0
>> >
>> > Murray Kucher (mskucher at hookup.net, still listed as hookup's contact in
>> > various databases) has long left HookUp; I don't believe his
@hookup.net
>> > address works anymore.
>> >
>> > To confuse matters further, NetCom Canada has some odd ownership of
HookUp,
>> > whom I believe declared bankruptcy.  Last I heard, NetCom only acquired
>> > HookUp's customer base.  I mention this in the event that you are
unable
>> > to find anyone at HookUp -- try a contact from www.netcom.ca instead.
>> >
>> > noc at hookup.net may forward somewhere useful.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps,
>> >
>> > -Chris
>> >
>> > Chris Portman =================================================
chris at unix.org
>> > Senior Systems Operations and Security                     iSTAR
Internet Inc.
>> > (613) 788-7767                                                  Ottawa,
ON, CA
>> >
>> >
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>--
>Murray S. Kucherawy =============================================
msk at cris.com
>Senior Software Engineer/UNIX Wizard            Concentric Network
Corporation
>(408) 342-2800                NIC Handle "MSK"              Cupertino, CA,
USA
># "Do you lead, or are you led?  Are you sure that you don't care?" -- INXS
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