[whoisdatabase at hotmail.com: Re: Network Solutions Lists]
Roeland M.J. Meyer
rmeyer at mhsc.com
Sun Dec 13 20:31:32 UTC 1998
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>Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:58:36 -0800
>Reply-To: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer at MHSC.COM>
>Sender: Owner-Domain-Policy <owner-domain-policy at internic.net>
>From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer at MHSC.COM>
>Subject: Report: Whois database for sale
>X-To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at INTERNIC.NET>
>To: DOMAIN-POLICY at LISTS.INTERNIC.NET
>
>I just called this guy at
>
>>Registrant:
>>Site Promotion, LLC (TARGETEDLISTS2-DOM)
>> 3000 Millsfield
>> Dyersburg, TN 38024
>> US
>>
>> Domain Name: TARGETEDLISTS.COM
>>
>> Administrative Contact:
>> Promotion, Site (SP7502) spotfree at LOA.COM
>> 901-286-6157
>>
>
>A *real* person answers the phone. I had a very good discussion with him
>and I mentioned that this call was part of the MHSC process leading to
>submitting his site to the RBL. He confirmed the web-site and its stated
>intention. I also pointed out that making whois contact information
>available to spammers was a lot like "tugging on Superman's cape", not a
>good idea as it would gain the extreme ire of every ISP on the planet, not
>to mention every other domain-name holder. I also politely reminded him
>that the whois information is for internet-related business ONLY and NOT to
>be used for advertising.
>
>In turn, he informed me that, as of this morning, he has decided to stop
>this activity. It remains to be seen if he will do so. Chuck, I strongly
>suggest that NSI follow this up with their own phone contact procedures.
>
>It is amusing that he, at first, tried to say that he didn't send the SPAM,
>but when I started to read excerpts from the text of his web-site he
>abandoned that argument line.
>
>At 11:28 AM 12/13/98 , Gomes, Chuck wrote:
>>Chuck,
>>
>>To me, this indicates a serious problem at NSI. Y'all *had* to know that
>some scum-bag was eventually going to do this. openly. I maintain that is
>has been happening surreptitiously for some time, as this isn't the first
>time someone has spammed my contact info addresses.
>>
>>What it disappointing is that NSI doesn't already have a "canned" response
>ready to go. It was definitely a forsee-able event. Is it maybe that you
>are aware of the probable response and don't like it yourself?
>
>>
>>At 05:42 AM 12/13/98 , Gomes, Chuck wrote:
>>>To date we have tried very hard to avoid becoming content managers of the
>>>Internet because we have never really been given any authorization to do
so.
>>>Also, how could it be done fairly and equitably?
>>>
>>>Because of the concern for this issue though, we are discussing how this
>>>might be done if in fact it can be done fairly and efficiently.
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Benjamin Azevedo [SMTP:Editor at Opiniao.com]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 1998 8:09 AM
>>>> To: DOMAIN-POLICY
>>>> Subject: Whois database for sale
>>>>
>>>> To all and specially Chuck,
>>>>
>>>> Spam received today offering access to domain owners email addresses.
>>>> With a registered domain to receive orders: http://www.targetedlists.com
>>>>
>>>> As long as they start selling the list widely, we should expect even
>>>> more spam against domain contacts.
>>>>
>>>> Isn't this offering a reason to immediately suspend/cancel this domain?
>>>> And maybe other associated domains too, as "targetedlists.com" has been
>>>> just
>>>> registered and possibly is disposable anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Benjamin Azevedo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1)Spam received
>>>> Re: Network Solutions Lists
>>>> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 08:32:26 GMT
>>>> From: whois at finfin.com
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> According to our records, you have at least
>>>> one domain registered with Network Solutions,
>>>> aka The Internic.
>>>> http://rs.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois/
>>>>
>>>> Please do not be offended by this email.
>>>> This is not a mass spam mailing. Your
>>>> email address is on an Opt-In list of domain
>>>> owners who are interested in increasing
>>>> their website traffic.
>>>>
>>>> We can show you how to generate so much traffic,
>>>> that it could possibly CRASH your ISP's server!
>>>> That's right!
>>>>
>>>> We have a huge list of Internic's Domain Owners,
>>>> extracted from the Whois Database available
>>>> for download from our password protected
>>>> website right now. For more details,
>>>> visit our site . . .
>>>>
>>>> http://www.targetedlists.com/
>>>>
>>>> If you order before Dec. 31st, you will receive
>>>> "MacroBot" software for FREE!
>>>>
>>>> This is a one time mailing offer to members
>>>> of Network Solutions Whois Database of Domain
>>>> Name Owners/Opt-In List. You will not receive
>>>> any further mailings from our company.
>>>>
>>>> To request removal from this opt-in list,
>>>> send an email with "unsubscribe" in the
>>>> subject box. mailto:removelist at eastmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time and consideration,
>>>>
>>>> The UnderWorld
>
>>>> 1-800-607-6006 ext. 3205#
>>>>
>>>> http://www.targetedlists.com/
>>>>
>>>> 2)Info available on the annouced site
>>>> Welcome To The
>>>> UnderWorld!
>>>>
>>>> BULK EMAIL ADDRESSES - PROMOTION SERVICES,
>>>> FREE EMAIL EXTRACTION SOFTWARE
>>>> AND GREAT INFORMATION FOR SITE PROMOTERS!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hold on to your hat, because this info is going to "knock your
>>>> socks
>>>> OFF!" We have an email address list of domain owners in the
>>>> Internic's Whois Database.
>>>>
>>>> The great thing about The Internic's Whois database is that
>>>> virtually
>> >>> all the email addresses are VALID. These people are Domain
>>>> Owners!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's a GREAT resource list for web promoters, hosting
companies,
>>>> developers, retail sales, and so forth. You won't find this
>>>> list available
>>>> anywhere on the net.
>>>>
>>>> We have cleaned this list against our blacklist of internet
>>>> nazi's and
>>>> "anti-emailers" and remove requests. It started out as 655,000
>>>> addresses, now it has 487,000 super clean addresses. No edu's,
>>>> orgs,
>>>> mostly US addresses. This list includes over 17,000
webmasters.
>>>>
>>>> We also have approximately 230,000 opportunity seekers and
>>>> network
>>>> marketers email addresses. Both the Internic Whois Database
and
>>>> the Opportunity Seeker lists are available for download from
our
>>>> password protected web site right now!
>>>>
>>>> You can get immediate access after you place your order.
>>>>
>>>> Download them right now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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receive
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>>>>
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>>>> on a
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>>>> want to
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>>>> our
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>>>>
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>>>> bulk
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tens
>>>> of
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>>>>
>>>> 3. We have a great bulk email information center designed to
>>>> keep
>>>> you updated on the latest bulk mail legal issues, general
>>>> industry
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>>>> writing
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>>>> lots more!
>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> 3)Whois information about the domain offering the list
>>>> Registrant: Site Promotion, LLC (TARGETEDLISTS2-DOM)
>>>> 3000 Millsfield
>>>> Dyersburg, TN 38024
>>>> US
>>>>
>>>> Domain Name: TARGETEDLISTS.COM
>>>>
>>>> Administrative Contact:
>>>> Promotion, Site (SP7502) spotfree at LOA.COM
>>>> 901-286-6157
>>>> Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
>>>> VDirect Domain Services (VD143-ORG) dnsadmin at VDIRECT.COM
>>>> 716-262-2351
>> >>> Fax- 716-262-3766
>>>> Billing Contact:
>>>> Promotion, Site (SP7502) spotfree at LOA.COM
>>>> 901-286-6157
>>>>
>>>> Record last updated on 02-Dec-98.
>>>> Record created on 02-Dec-98.
>>>> Database last updated on 13-Dec-98 02:53:46 EST.
>>>>
>>>> Domain servers in listed order:
>>>>
>>>> DNS1.VDIRECT.COM 208.157.147.98
>>>> DNS2.VDIRECT.COM 208.157.147.99
>>>
>>>
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