BBN Peering issues

Fri Aug 14 16:38:56 UTC 1998

| Private Exchange.  It is a private exchange between SPRINT and Exodus.

I see.  And is it your assertion that Exodus does not pay for this
peering, and that, moreover, the payment does not include transit
services?

One of the reasons I wonder, of course, is that it is pretty
apparent from traceroutes that Sprint is not routing towards
Exodus uniformly (see below, note different exits).

Now why would Sprint do that on a settlement-free basis?

I'm also curious about the assertion that you have no transit
at all.  Not even from Worldcom, maybe?

I'm sure a public reassertion that there Exodus has NO 
paid-for transit from ANYONE would be interesting to everyone.

	Sean.

...
 8  mlm1-core.hssi0-0.swip.net (130.244.194.145)  72.640 ms  79.000 ms  6.226 ms
 9  198.67.142.137 (198.67.142.137)  7.338 ms  8.505 ms  7.945 ms
10  198.67.142.77 (198.67.142.77)  97.600 ms  96.253 ms  95.975 ms
11  144.232.5.157 (144.232.5.157)  96.336 ms  95.309 ms  95.644 ms
12  sl-bb22-stk-6-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.8.178)  148.940 ms  149.329 ms  149.583 ms
13  sl-bb23-stk-8-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.4.110)  149.705 ms  149.598 ms  150.050 ms
14  sl-bb10-sj-6-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.8.193)  150.645 ms  150.973 ms  151.126 ms
15  144.232.3.26 (144.232.3.26)  151.027 ms  154.151 ms  152.050 ms
16  sl-gw3-sj-4-0-0-155M.sprintlink.net (144.232.3.50)  151.511 ms  151.648 ms  151.472 ms
17  sl-exodus-5-0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.44.6)  156.324 ms  175.375 ms  158.908 ms
18  scca-01-f8-0-0.core.exodus.net (209.1.169.21)  163.182 ms  164.906 ms  168.566 ms
19  sc3-f0-1-0.exodus.net (209.1.169.14)  153.999 ms  155.180 ms  159.556 ms
20  santaclara-cisco75.exodus.net (207.82.200.75)  156.249 ms  231.899 ms  167.273 ms
21  209.1.231.2 (209.1.231.2)  170.068 ms  167.423 ms  169.606 ms
22  dixon.delong.sj.ca.us (192.159.10.1)  166.376 ms  173.019 ms  159.060 ms

versus (towards what used to be cam.vio.com)

 8  mlm1-core.hssi0-0.swip.net (130.244.194.145)  7.232 ms  6.630 ms  6.842 ms
 9  198.67.142.137 (198.67.142.137)  7.145 ms  6.821 ms  6.979 ms
10  198.67.142.77 (198.67.142.77)  95.533 ms  96.899 ms  95.645 ms
11  144.232.5.157 (144.232.5.157)  96.509 ms  97.051 ms  95.386 ms
12  144.232.5.2 (144.232.5.2)  96.226 ms  95.588 ms  96.827 ms
13  sl-bb10-pen-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.8.217)  151.164 ms  151.616 ms  152.558 ms
14  sl-gw6-sea-0-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.6.66)  154.156 ms  153.385 ms  151.895 ms
15  sl-exodus-4-0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.224.113.26)  155.599 ms  151.810 ms  154.255 ms
16  scca-21-pos-0-0-0.core.exodus.net (209.185.9.185)  229.000 ms  178.663 ms  187.497 ms
17  scca-12-p1-0-0.core.exodus.net (209.185.9.29)  188.063 ms  183.958 ms  231.547 ms
18  sc1-f6-0-0.exodus.net (209.1.169.2)  527.453 ms  561.012 ms  503.870 ms
19  sc1-f6-0-0.exodus.net (209.1.169.2)  572.187 ms  633.966 ms  547.594 ms
20  * * *

note Seattle versus San Jose.

Interestingly: vio.com    SOA     NS.CARAVAN.com hostmaster.NS.CARAVAN.com
NS.CARAVAN.COM seems to live behind bayarea.net, a BBN Planet customer.

	Sean. (again)