AS8584 taking over the internet
Joe Provo - Network Architect
jprovo at ultra.net
Fri Apr 10 02:44:50 UTC 1998
[snip]
> I believe that the implication was that: 1) they're not directly
> connected to any of the major _US_ backbones, and 2) they're on the
> other end of a fairly thin hose.
>
> And they can _still_ hose things this badly.
>
> This speaks not well of the architecture involved.
No, no, it speaks _well_ for the architecture - equal opportunity
hosage! There is no backone-hasage cabale; all that enter into bgp
relationships can have a shot at hurting the net...
ObContent:
- yes, filters are Good. customers, especially if new to complicated
things, should have both as-path and prefix filters placed against
them. the questions to ask oneself regarding peers is "how clueful
are they, really? and do their procedures allow only these clueful
into the boxes? am I willing to tie my performance/reliability/
reputation to theirs in this intimate a fashion? are my bosses
willing to do so? " People like to think in terms of the first
question, not the last two.
- yes, the IRR is good (and yes, their PGP implementation works);
giving third parties the ability to verify your organization's
"routing intent" cannot be construed as bad -- the data is publicly
visible. there's nothing to hide.
- yes, filtering doesn't mean not pushing IRR (or other forms of
distributed data) on folks. IRR (or ...) doesn't mean not trying
to more closely tie authentication/verification vs realtime; present
tools are config-only, which aren't dynamic enough for the real net.
joe
-30-
More information about the NANOG
mailing list