AS8584 taking over the internet

Hank Nussbacher hank at
Thu Apr 9 22:31:31 UTC 1998

At 08:36 AM 4/9/98 +0100, philip bridge wrote:
>That is of course laudible. But the point has to be made that AS8584 is in
>Israel. In an environment when a small ISP in a small country can cause a
>lot of damage to the global Internet, a way has to be found to efficiently
>propogate this knowledge far and wide.

Long before everyone woke up and found this I was on the phone with them -
discovering that they were doing some nasty redistributes and didn't quite
understand.  There are thousands of ISPs in the world - some even more
clueless  than Barak.  If you are an upstream ISP and talk BGP to someone
downstream and don't filter - then you are to blame.  AS4000 (among others)-
which is Barak's upstream should have known better.


>At 02:10 PM 4/8/98 -0600, Cengiz Alaettinoglu wrote:
>>philip bridge on Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:08:03 +0100 said:
>>> It seems that the current state of the IRR and the supporting tools are
>>> in general simply too complex for a lot of people to get to grips with
>>> ... which includes me - we build ours manually :-(  
>>To familarize with the IRR and the supporting tools, Sunday before next
>>two nanogs, there will be a IRR/RPSL/RAToolSet tutorials. We will send an
>>official announcement very soon about it.
>Philip Bridge	
>++41 31 688 8262	bridge at
>PGP: DE78 06B7 ACDB CB56 CE88 6165 A73F B703

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