BGP blackholing spam [was Spammer Bust]
jim at carroll.com
Sat Sep 6 15:55:11 UTC 1997
On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, Randy Bush wrote:
> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 97 23:08 PDT
> From: Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
> To: nanog at merit.edu
> Subject: BGP blackholing spam [was Spammer Bust]
> Please excuse me, but I would like to turn this traditional spam topic
> (often in form as well as content) into something operational.
> Paul Vixie is doing something about spam which is technical, operational,
> and which can be put into your router, a BGP feed to blackhole spam sites.
Is it possible to get the list of sites included in this feed. Paul Vixie
used to publish these site on his web site, but the "Rogue" sites area has
been taken down. Apparently a large number of list "memebers" threaten
legal action. They alleged some used this list as a list of targets for
We were freuquent reviewers of the list. We used the information there to
update our sendmail filters. We were very dissapointed to see it go.
The only trouble I have with Paul's list was it occasionally needed fine
tuning by hand. Some sites had to be permitted, even though they may have
been guilty of UCE. On one occasion, they had an ISP on their list. This
ISP was close enough to us in geographic region that it was reasonable to
expect some of our users were emailing users on their system. We could not
therefore black hole them.
It would seem to me that this would be more serious if this were an
automatic feed, sent directly to our routers. There would be no way to
review the sites on the list before they were blocked.
Perhaps Paul would create a mailing list for network operators interested
in receiving his blackhole list. As new updates to the group were made,
they could be sent to the list. So as not to appear as though we are
looking for something for nothing, we would be willing to donate resources
to run the list.
Jim C., President | C A R R O L L - N E T, Inc.
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