peers, peer-nots, judges/politicians, and you -AT&T & BBN

Sun May 4 01:19:46 UTC 1997

Well said Paul.

I find it to be a very intriguing question as to where
AT&T is in all this mess. If i were Eric Grimmelmann, I would have been
working real hard for real long on getting tom evslin, to get the AT&T CEO
to cough up an obscene amount of money to be used to *BUY* BBN Planet.

Anyone hear anything about them being in play or know where john curran is
hanging out these days?

The sad thing is that if AT&T does buy BBN and doesn't let the current BBN
management team continue to do its own thing, I think we will see A flood
of BBN talent leave BBN.

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On Sat, 3 May 1997, Paul A Vixie wrote:

> Here's something with cobwebs on it that bears on the current UUNET discussion.
> 
> To: xxx
> Subject: text i removed from my recent message to nanog -- xxx
> Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 21:17:03 -0700
> From: Paul A Vixie <vixie at wisdom.home.vix.com>
> 
> But what's interesting to me about this being your reason for not coming to
> CIX is that your policy is being shaped by other policies that you don't like.
> You have the option of configuring a CIX-connected router to avoid CIX for
> paths which have AS xxxx in them.
> 
> Ultimately the battle lines will be drawn, and there will be three distinct
> camps of folks (see below).  In the mean while, the fact that the lines aren't
> clear is letting a lot of folks play "chicken" with each other's customers,
> and that's too bad.
> 
> When the battle lines form up, you'll see the peers, the peer-nots, and the
> lawyers/judges/politicians.  My personal and oft-stated goal is to make the
> set of "peers" so large and so well interconnected that the "peer-nots" will
> get complaints from their own customers if they can't reach all the "peers".
> 
> Choosing not to join CIX, or any interconnect you can afford to join, for the
> reason you gave, works against the full connectivity of the "peers" in the
> above black-and-white picture, and this in turn will make it easier for the
> "peer-nots" to divide you all and conquer you, one at a time, since at no
> time will they feel enough pressure from their own customer bases.
> 