UUNET Pulling Peering Agreements & replacing them with charging under non-disclosure?

Fri May 2 12:26:18 UTC 1997

At 02:32 AM 5/2/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
> Oh hell. I was just explaining to my boss last week how none of these
> NSPs trust each other and so that's why all these packets have to cross
> the country twice to get 20 miles down the road etc etc and now if
> UUNET is pulling peers then he's _really_ going to have my head.
>
> Several questions:
>
> 1 - What is the point of the NDA? Is the NDA precedented?
>
> 2 - Are they pulling CIX peering? (Can that rtr get any more overloaded? :)
>

Last I heard, when the CIX moves locations, AGIS, MCI, UUNET, and Sprint
will all be leaving the CIX.

> 3 - One of my upstream providers claims that Sprint pulled peering 
> abruptly on them this morning without any warning and is now charging 
> them $X (where X is a large number) to peer. Has this happened to anyone 
> else, is it a Sprint policy to always charge for new peers, etc?
>
> Thanks,
>
>-Tung-Hui Hu
> hhui at arcfour.com
>

Well, this is the way its going to be.  Can anyone really be that
surprised?  I've been watching this trend for over a year now.  From a
small network standpoint, it sux.  I work for a small network now, and now
I have to budget financing to talk to these other networks.

But for the big boys, they are loosing money.  They have to put up huge
amounts of bandwidth at the exchanges, so people can transverse their
network free of charge.  In a business sense, where is the cost
justification here?

Well Gordo, I know you hate anything AGIS, but they saw this coming a mile
away and acted on it.  I guess we know now why the big boys never
complained about the AGIS peering policy, because in the back of their
minds, they thought it was a good idea.

Markl

Mark E Larson
Senior Network Architect
RUSTnet Inc.

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