Class "B" forsale (fwd)
JimFleming at unety.net
Mon Mar 10 20:35:21 UTC 1997
On Monday, March 10, 1997 9:13 AM, Kim Hubbard[SMTP:kimh at internic.net]
@ > What is the InterNIC policy on the sale of class Bs?
@ > --
@ > From: Joseph T. Klein, Titania Corporation http://www.titania.net
@ > E-mail: jtk at titania.net Sent: 22:10:20 CST/CDT 03/09/97
@ The InterNIC's policy is what's stated in rFC2050. An organization
@ must justify the utilization efficiency of address space. They need
@ to justify it whether they request it from a regional registry, whether
@ they buy it or whether they received it for Xmas.
@ The way I look at it is, an organization received address space because
@ of information they listed on an IP template. They had a requirement
@ for this amount of IP numbers. Even if they received it long ago when
@ it was easier to get addresses, they still had to show some kind of
@ requirement. If they no longer have a requirement for the address,
@ they should return it.
ISPs have a very small percentage of the IP address
allocations. Despite this, ISPs endure most of the pain.
Why not focus on this 25% of the addess space first...?
CA 0.0.0.0 IANA (RESERVED-1)
CA 22.214.171.124 IANA (RESERVED-9)
CA 126.96.36.199 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) (RESERVED)
NJ 188.8.131.52 General Electric Company (NET-GE-INTERNET)
MA 184.108.40.206 BBN Planet (NET-SATNET)
CA 220.127.116.11 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) (RESERVED)
AZ 18.104.22.168 Army Information Systems Center (NET-YPG-NET)
CA 22.214.171.124 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) (RESERVED-11)
MA 126.96.36.199 Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc. (NET-BBN-NET-TEMP)
NY 188.8.131.52 IBM Corporation (NET-IBM)
CA 10.0.0.0 IANA (RESERVED-6)
CA 184.108.40.206 DoD Intel Information Systems (NET-DODIIS)
FL 220.127.116.11 AT&T ITS (NET-ATT)
CA 18.104.22.168 Xerox Palo Alto Research Center (NET-XEROX-NET)
CA 22.214.171.124 Public Data Network (NET-PDN)
CA 126.96.36.199 Hewlett-Packard Company (NET-HP-INTERNET)
CA 188.8.131.52 Digital Equipment Corporation (NET-DEC-INTERNET)
CA 184.108.40.206 Apple Computer, Inc. (NET-APPLE-WWNET)
MA 220.127.116.11 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (NET-MIT-TEMP)
MI 18.104.22.168 Ford Motor Company (NET-FINET)
VA 22.214.171.124 Computer Sciences Corporation (NET-CSC)
VA 126.96.36.199 DDN-RVN (NET-DDN-RVN)
DC 188.8.131.52 Defense Information Systems Agency (NET-DISNET)
CA 184.108.40.206 IANA (NET-DDN-TC-NET)
CA 220.127.116.11 @Home Network (NETBLK-ATHOME) ATHOME 18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124
UK 126.96.36.199 Royal Signals and Radar Establishment (NET-RSRE-EXP)
VA 188.8.131.52 Defense Information Systems Agency (NET-MILNET)
CA 184.108.40.206 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) (RESERVED-10)
VA 220.127.116.11 ARPA DSI JPO (NET-DSI-NORTH)
DC 18.104.22.168 Defense Information Systems Agency (NET-MILX25-TEMP)
DC 22.214.171.124 Defense Information Systems Agency (NET-ARPAX25-TEMP)
CA 126.96.36.199 IANA (RESERVED-12)
Norway 188.8.131.52 Norsk Informasjonsteknologi (NET-NORGESNETT)
OH 184.108.40.206 DLA Systems Automation Center (NET-DCMC)
TX 220.127.116.11 Halliburton Company (NET-HALLIBURTON)
MI 18.104.22.168 Merit Network Inc. (NET-MERIT)
CA 22.214.171.124 Stanford University (NET-SU-NET-TEMP)
CA 126.96.36.199 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) (RESERVED-37A)
VA 188.8.131.52 Performance Systems International (NET-PSINETA)
CA 184.108.40.206 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) (RESERVED-39A)
IN 220.127.116.11 Eli Lilly and Company (NET-LILLY-NET)
CA 18.104.22.168 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (RESERVED-41A)
CA 22.214.171.124 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) (RESERVED)
Japan 126.96.36.199 Japan Inet (NET-JAPAN-A)
CA 188.8.131.52 Amateur Radio Digital Communications (NET-AMPRNET)
CA 184.108.40.206 Interop Show Network (NET-SHOWNETA)
MA 220.127.116.11 Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc. (NET-BBNNET)
Canada 18.104.22.168 Bell-Northern Research (NET-BNR)
NY 22.214.171.124 Prudential Securities Inc. (NET-PRUBACHE)
126.96.36.199 No match for "188.8.131.52".
184.108.40.206 No match for "220.127.116.11".
UK 18.104.22.168 Department of Social Security of UK (NET-ITSANET)
DE 22.214.171.124 E.I. duPont de Nemours and Co., Inc. (NET-DUPONT1)
Germany 126.96.36.199 cap debis ccs (NET-DB-NET2)
NJ 188.8.131.52 Merck and Co., Inc. (NET-MERCK2)
VA 184.108.40.206 Army National Guard Bureau (NET-RCAS2)
NC 220.127.116.11 U.S. Postal Service (NET-USPS1)
France 18.104.22.168 SITA-Societe Internationale de Telecommunications
CA 22.214.171.124 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) (RESERVED)
CA 126.96.36.199 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) (RESERVED)
CA 188.8.131.52 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) (RESERVED)
CA 184.108.40.206 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) (RESERVED)
CA 220.127.116.11 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) (RESERVED)
CA 18.104.22.168 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) (RESERVED)
@ Yes, I know many (David and Geoff:-)) are probably calling me Pollyanna
@ right about now and it is true that most companies won't return it
@ if they think they can sell it. But I think having a procedure in
@ place to at least begin reclaiming addresses from those organizations
@ that are no longer in business can only help matters.
I agree...the following posting explains
why I do not think ARIN will be able to do that...
From: Jim Fleming[SMTP:JimFleming at unety.net.]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 1997 1:50 PM
To: 'John Curran'; Jim Fleming
Cc: 'Leo Smith'; 'Tim Bass'; 'Bradley Dunn'; 'Christopher Sevcik';
'ckuehn at nsf.gov'; 'dont at netsol.com'; 'gstrawn at nsf.gov'; 'Jay Fenello';
'Justin W. Newton'; 'Kent Landfield'; 'lsundro at nsf.gov'; 'Peter J. de
Subject: RE: InterNIC 2000 Summary
On Monday, March 10, 1997 1:36 PM, John Curran[SMTP:jcurran at bbnplanet.com]
@ With respect to 10 regional NIC's performing IP allocations
@ without providing connectivity, you'll need a plan for how
@ routing announcements from such assignments will be handled.
@ The plan can be as simple as hand-waving and saying that
@ technology will allow an order-of-magnitude growth in the
@ routing calculations, but you should at least record the
@ p.s. Proposed ARIN Board member
@ p.p.s. Newdom dropped from cc intentionally,
@ as my comment is IP registry specific.
Thanks for the comment.
Once again, I will point out that the /8s will be assigned
for management purposes. The goal is NOT to hand out
virgin /8s to cause a run on the IPv4 address space to
fill the router tables with a massive number of entries.
Those are FUD notions and are not the objective.
The objective is to bring the IP address space under
proper management and funding and to get more people
involved to help work with reclamation and ecology as
well as aggressive aggregation plans. This can only
happen in Regions because some of this work takes
"local knowledge". Also, more people means more eyes
and ears and more attention to seeing IP space that
has been abandoned or is being wasted.
Moving the current small InterNIC group to another
small ARIN group is not the solution. We need to get
more people involved, more adults involved and get the
Internet on a track where the entire world community
can feel the stable structures and continue to invest.
P.S. ARIN list not added because ARIN is aimed at solving
a local InterNIC problem that will quickly go away when we
all work together on a coherent plan that encompasses, NSF,
NSI, the SBA, the FNC, the U.S. Government and the many
people and companies that have invested time and energy on
the emerging Registry Industry.
P.P.S. Newdom is a "whiteboard" archive for many Registry
Industry issues...it is mostly write-only...and has a reliable
operator who does not erase messages...
JimFleming at unety.net
JimFleming at unety.s0.g0 (EDNS/IPv8)
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