smurf, the MCI-developed tracing tools (was Re: Bogus announcement)

Network Operations Center noc at
Sat Dec 27 22:39:40 UTC 1997

	Hello Karl & All,  Where or at what price are these tools
			Tia, JimL
PS:	In a further responce Karl was heard to say :

> The bottom line is that MONTHS after these were made available your NOC crew

	I never heard nor was made aware that these tools were available,
	even though I am an MCI Customer . :-(

On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Karl Denninger wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 27, 1997 at 01:24:05PM -0500, Reid B. Fishler wrote:
> > Just thought that I would post that as one of goodnet's larger
>>customers (DS3), we are 
> > VERY satisfied with their NOC, as well as their service. Whenever I
>>have a problem, I 
> > can get a member of the goodnet staff to respond quicker than my
>>other upstreams...:-)
> > (hint Sprint)
> > 
> > Reid Fishler
> > Lightning Internet Services, LLC
> Wait until you get smurfed and ask them to use the MCI-developed tracing
> tools and get a "duhhhhh" back in response.
> They might have fixed this by now (since we bitched LOUDLY about this) but
> as of a few weeks ago the NOC had *no idea* how to trace this kind of
> activity - at all - nor any desire to learn.

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