FYI: Cease And Desist Flaming

Jon Green jcgreen at
Tue Aug 12 16:42:45 UTC 1997

If this is for real, I'd love to see Mr. Allyn's response if
his AOL address were subscribed to thousands of bulk email lists.
How much would spamming be protected as free speech then?

Not that I'd advocate doing such.


On Mon, 11 Aug 97 12:53:38 -0700, jon at writes:
>This is a good one...anybody seen this before?
>They are spamming about spamming. Maybe it is a plot by this lawyer to 
>get more clients...
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>Subject: Cease And Desist Flaming
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>On behalf of our client, Samsung America Inc., ("Samsung") 
>we hereby request that you cease and desist all 
>inflammatory internet hacking, telephone hacking, flaming,
>jamming, and other illegal activities.
>If you have responded aversely to a recent bulk email 
>message from our client, Samsung America, Inc., or from any
>of its subsidiary companies, then you may be one of the 
>people who has performed fraudulent and actionable 
>transgressions, thereby causing severe harm to our client.  
>Your email name was provided as being suspected of 
>connection to various acts of internet terrorism.  Your acts
>are illegal.
>Several messages have suggested that Samsung and/or its 
>subsidiaries, including but not limited to Sailahead Global
>Emporium,, and Samsung Electronics, 
>, violated US Federal Laws through 
>activities commonly called "spamming."  This allegation is
>unfounded in the law, as spamming is a protected activity 
>under the laws of free speech.
>Our client has asked us to inform you that all of your 
>future correspondences should be directed to their counsel:
>Russell L. Allyn, Attorney at Law
>California Sate Bar Number (SBN) 143531
>Katz, Hoyt, Seigel & Kapor LLP
>Los Angeles, CA
>khskllp at
>310-473-7138 (fax)
>All incidents of internet terrorism will be prosecuted 
>where possible, and reported to appropriate law enforcement 
>authorities as warranted.
>Please consider this as your notice to cease all attempts 
>to harm multi-national corporations who conduct legitimate 
>commerce on the internet.
>Russell L. Allyn, Attorney at Law
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