NEWDOM: Re: offtopic for NANOG - do not read

Sat Apr 26 17:19:48 UTC 1997

At 02:59 PM 04/26/97 -0500, Jim Fleming wrote:

>On Saturday, April 26, 1997 11:49 AM, Carl
Oppedahl[SMTP:carl at oppedahl.com] wrote:

>@ At 01:46 PM 04/26/97 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
>@ 
><snip>
>@ 
>@ >I'd like you to point out the major corporations and public
universities who
>@ >will do this.  I'd also like you to immediately return that nice root
server
>@ >that NSI has paid for in part or whole, if you really believe this.

>@ NSI has never paid for anything.  NSI has doled out money collected by it
>@ from NSF and from domain name owners.  NSF (i.e. the US taxpayers) and the
>@ COM, NET etc. domain name owners have paid for whatever it is you think NSI
>@ has paid for.

>Carl,

>This is not quite true.

>Paul Vixie has stated on the NANOG list that NSI
>pays for his equipment. 

I have no doubt the check was from NSI.  I am talking about where the money
actually came from, and the answer is either (1) NSF (i.e. the US
taxpayers) or (2) the domain name owners paying their $100 or $50 fees.

>Paul is part of the Internet
>Software Consortium (ISC) <http://www.ispc.org>
>an IRS approved 501(c) company that accepts
>donations so that Paul can write software that
>supports the domain name system.
>
>Their web site says they have a $700,000/year budget.
>
>According to the IRS, you can get full-disclosure
>on all of this.

So what?  Nobody doubts that the check Paul Vixie received was written by
NSI -- if that's what he says, I believe him.  No amount of full disclosure
under 501(c)(3) is necessary to learn whose name was on the check.

What I am talking about is the source of the money.  NSI got it from you
and me when we paid our $100 and our $50, or when they collected it from
NSF (and thus from you and me).