Compu$erve RFC 1123 5.3.3 violation

Jared Mauch jared at wolverine.hq.cic.net
Fri Nov 15 23:00:20 UTC 1996


	I agree.  They should say deferred and let sendmail retry until
the local configuration says to bounce a warning or return the message.

	I will note, students.uiuc.edu also does this if a mailbox
is full.

	- Jared

Randy Bush graced my mailbox with this long sought knowledge:
> The following bounce from Comp$Serve violates RFC 1123 5.3.3.  They have
> been repeatedly informed of this and refuse to fix their mail system.
> Hence mailing lists here prevent subscription by Compu$erve addressees.
> I suggest that others, e.g. the nanog list, do the same.
> 
> randy
> 
> 
> Message-ID: <961115221415_515664.456256_JHO109-62 at CompuServe.COM>
> Date: 15 Nov 96 17:14:16 EST
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> Comments: Returned from:  <103311.571 at CompuServe.COM>
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> Subject: Undeliverable message
> 
> Your message could not be delivered for the following reason:
> 
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> To: Scott Huddle <huddle at mci.net>
> Cc: nanog at merit.edu
> From: Randy Bush <rbush at wna.net>
> Subject: Re: The Cidr Report
> References: <199611152058.PAA17223 at new6.Reston.mci.net>
> Sender: owner-nanog at merit.edu
> 
> >> Number of ASes announcing only one prefix:  737 (378 cidr, 359 classful
> > Wow!  Is a correct assumption that some 40% of the ASs could be 
> > reclaimed?
> 
> I do not see how you get to this conclusion.  He did not say number of ASs
> which only appear through one other unique AS, i.e. are single homed.  Oh,
> Joel!
> 
> >> Largest number of  cidr routes:                    461 announced by AS3561
> >> Largest number of classful routes:                1266 announced by  AS174
> > Neat stuff.  Could you list the top ten or five of each of these?
> 
> What is a 'top' prefix?  Lowest IP?  Shortest prefix?  Actually, for
> embarrassment sake, I would want to see the most likely candidates for
> aggregation.  But if I wanna see it, I can look in one of my routers.
> 
> >> Top 20 Withdrawn Routes from 08Nov96 to 15Nov96
> >> 	-304  AS174 Performance Systems International
> > Are congrats due to PSI?
> 
> Far out!  Maybe so!  
> 
> >> 	 -50 AS2914 WNA, premasticated for MCI :-)
> > ???
> 
> Sorry.  I have to convert my RADB RPSL one into a placeholder RIPE-181++ for
> the MCI-RR, and that's the descr:.  For the real aut-num: see the RADB.  I
> would think Tony would be picking up the latter.  Old habits, TB?
> 
> randy
> 






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